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With 25 tabs open (and some of the pages are rather image intensive), Adblock Plus, etc. WaterFox is using just over 1GB RAM for me, which is around what it normally has been in this situation for me.

A 64bit program is always going to use more memory than a 32bit equivalent, I've had WaterFox using way more than 2GB RAM in normal use before. 2GB RAM being used doesn't seem wrong at all to me.

I wouldn't mind the amount of RAM it will use as long as it doesn't turn all sluggish on me, but when it reaches that amount of RAM then it's really annoying to use because of the sluggishness. This did not happen with 32.x.x. And it is set to not open tabs until I select them so only a handful of tabs are loaded.
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I use Firefox on my laptop, so I could get it out and test to see how the 32-bit version behaves, but that being said, MrAlex likes to use cutting-edge memory allocators so the behavior could be different.
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Hmm the memory usage is definitely correct for the amount of RAM you have, but it definitely shouldn't crash. And you say there's no crash report? Even on 33.0.2 because I re-enabled the crash reporter? Very strange, I'll see what I can find out for you!

no sorry mr alex but it not normal as firefox not do it palemoon or cyberfox i ask a tech friend he says the memory leak because no jemalloc waterfox need ac_add_options --enable-jemalloc in build option he say or large memory holes appear with great security risk that why message in about:memory show he told me to stop using till fixed.

me hope you fix soon so i can use waterfox again
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I've been running Waterfox for about 1 year with no problems on a HP laptop running Windows 7 and a core i7 processor. Friday morning of last week having done no upgrades or adding any new programs to the machine Waterfox started acting crazy.

Any page that has Flash on it runs slower than it should. Load times take longer for pages and when I try to scroll down the scroll bar moves down and the page eventually catches up. When scrolling the page is very jumpy, for lack of a better term to describe it. When I open a Flash menu it takes forever to make a change or close it. I've uninstall Waterfox and Flash, cleaned up the machine, rebooted and reinstalled both programs and still the problem persists. When I run Firefox it runs just fine.

Has anyone else experienced this problem and if you have how did you fix it.

Thanks
Mike Trubow
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I have been trying out the latest version of Waterfox for a couple of weeks now on a dual core unit running Win7 64-Bit with 10gig RAM & I am impressed with the speed of operation. One nagging item that comes up is that it doesn't allow me to enter any script writing on some web-sites where you have open button operated tabs to select a subject buy either right or left clicking the mouse on it to get a drop down message ect for selection or copying & paste items on web pages. The process works fine on Internet Explorer 9.0 (my preferred IE over other IE versions). I have all the possible add-ons with Java installed & enabled on Waterfox plus a few other media add-ons but can't seem to get this script writing to work. Has anybody any suggestions on how to get this to work?

Cheers

Teddals
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The website has now been updated and is live! Hopefully it won't take too long for the records to update everything!

 

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With 25 tabs open (and some of the pages are rather image intensive), Adblock Plus, etc. WaterFox is using just over 1GB RAM for me, which is around what it normally has been in this situation for me.

A 64bit program is always going to use more memory than a 32bit equivalent, I've had WaterFox using way more than 2GB RAM in normal use before. 2GB RAM being used doesn't seem wrong at all to me.

I wouldn't mind the amount of RAM it will use as long as it doesn't turn all sluggish on me, but when it reaches that amount of RAM then it's really annoying to use because of the sluggishness. This did not happen with 32.x.x. And it is set to not open tabs until I select them so only a handful of tabs are loaded.

 

Hmm that definitely doesn't sound good! But I'm still using the default malloc as always.

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I use Firefox on my laptop, so I could get it out and test to see how the 32-bit version behaves, but that being said, MrAlex likes to use cutting-edge memory allocators so the behavior could be different.

 

I only released test builds of those. I use mozalloc by default because jemalloc doesn't work well with ICC.

 

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Hmm the memory usage is definitely correct for the amount of RAM you have, but it definitely shouldn't crash. And you say there's no crash report? Even on 33.0.2 because I re-enabled the crash reporter? Very strange, I'll see what I can find out for you!

no sorry mr alex but it not normal as firefox not do it palemoon or cyberfox i ask a tech friend he says the memory leak because no jemalloc waterfox need ac_add_options --enable-jemalloc in build option he say or large memory holes appear with great security risk that why message in about:memory show he told me to stop using till fixed.

me hope you fix soon so i can use waterfox again

 

I can't enable jemalloc unfortunately, I use mozalloc instead. Either way there shouldn't be any security issues because of it!

 

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I've been running Waterfox for about 1 year with no problems on a HP laptop running Windows 7 and a core i7 processor. Friday morning of last week having done no upgrades or adding any new programs to the machine Waterfox started acting crazy.

Any page that has Flash on it runs slower than it should. Load times take longer for pages and when I try to scroll down the scroll bar moves down and the page eventually catches up. When scrolling the page is very jumpy, for lack of a better term to describe it. When I open a Flash menu it takes forever to make a change or close it. I've uninstall Waterfox and Flash, cleaned up the machine, rebooted and reinstalled both programs and still the problem persists. When I run Firefox it runs just fine.

Has anyone else experienced this problem and if you have how did you fix it.

Thanks
Mike Trubow

 

Hmm that doesn't sound very good. Have you tried running a fresh profile? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles

 

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I have been trying out the latest version of Waterfox for a couple of weeks now on a dual core unit running Win7 64-Bit with 10gig RAM & I am impressed with the speed of operation. One nagging item that comes up is that it doesn't allow me to enter any script writing on some web-sites where you have open button operated tabs to select a subject buy either right or left clicking the mouse on it to get a drop down message ect for selection or copying & paste items on web pages. The process works fine on Internet Explorer 9.0 (my preferred IE over other IE versions). I have all the possible add-ons with Java installed & enabled on Waterfox plus a few other media add-ons but can't seem to get this script writing to work. Has anybody any suggestions on how to get this to work?

Cheers

Teddals

 

Hmm we can't really help unless we know what the script is. Have you tried a fresh profile as well? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles

    
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Hmm that definitely doesn't sound good! But I'm still using the default malloc as always.

What do we need to actually troubleshoot this issue? Hey, for what it's worth thanks for the activity you're recently doing in the forums now, it's very different from last time redface.gif
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Hmm we can't really help unless we know what the script is. Have you tried a fresh profile as well? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles

Thanks for the reply, but when I try to reset profile by opening the 'Help' window in Waterfox, there is no 'Troubleshoot' coming up to allow me to refresh profile.
When I talk about 'script', I mean when I open a tab in a dropbox view (similar to the 'Get notified when others reply' at the bottom of this post that when I try to
open the tab which in default displays 'Immediately' nothing happens.
This may not be the case on this page but on other pages I'm looking which ask through selections via a tab button I cannot open it.
Usually when I am using IE the operation will open when I click on it there are more options displayed for selection or to type in a script if required.
As for copy & paste, if I highlite words or images to copy nothing happens where there should be an option on right click of mouse to do this.
I have tried this in this reply post when doing an amendment but when the words are highlited & I right click on them to copy nothing happens,
My firewall is not blocking this process so I'm stumped as to what is the cause.
When I was using an earlier version of Firefox (albiet 32-Bit) I did not have this problem.
I hope this description is understandable.

Cheers

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Edited by Teddals - 11/11/14 at 1:25pm
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Hello,
About 3 days ago, I sent a message directly to the developer of WaterFox, but it may not have been received or I may have followed incorrect protocol (I never did receive a reply), so I will try my question/concern here:

Due to a recent large media and news blitz, a website touting the ability to play retro 1980's arcade games has exploded with visits and hits. It is said that it has hundreds of thousands, if not a million or so, new visitors. Playing the retro game brings me back to my childhood/teenage years ! This Internet Arcade is found on the website called the "Internet Archive." Here is the direct link: https://archive.org/details/internetarcade .
The Internet Arcade operator, Jason Scott, highly recommends users to download and use WaterFox as the browser of choice to play games on this website. This is how I found WaterFox.

The reason WaterFox is recommended is because most games play at a 75% to 100% of normal game speed. When using Chrome to play, the games play at about 25% to 50% speed (sometimes it is really, really s-l-o-w). The game controls are performed by default using keys on your keyboard to move up, down, shoot, etc. Of course using the keyboard to play games can be extremely challenging if not almost impossible. You can use your own gamepad/controller, but not all browsers recognize your controller, so they do not function at all. I have been in contact with Jason Scott, and have been sharing just one difficulty with WaterFox ... it does not recognize my Xbox Controller.

WaterFox is great .... but to play these arcade games using my Xbox controller, it is not functional. I am forced to use Chrome if I want to play using my controller.
So I am seeking help and support here, in hopes of trying to get my Xbox controller to work with WaterFox. I am not a software or hardware specialist, by any means. I only have a small to moderate knowledge of computers in general. If you can help, please give me instructions "in English" that I can understand (baby-steps please).

Here is some additional information supplied by the Internet Arcade operator, they may help those of you who are specialist in this area. It sounds a bit foreign to me, but I'm sure it means something to those who have great abilities with software/hardware:

Jason Scott says that his team "has basically nothing to do with Gamepad Support. We used Emscripten to compile it in. Whatever Emscripten does and whatever the generic Gamepad API loader does, we do - we do no development on it."
He goes on to tell his users to "visit the Gamepad API Tester. This is a nice little page that will show what the current version of the Gamepad API thinks your controller is. If you can't see it, or it acts weird, it's the API." Here is the direct link to this "Gamepad API Tester" :
http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/doodles/gamepad/gamepad-tester/tester.html

When using this Gamepad API Tester, my Xbox Controller is immediately recognized using Chrome, but when the tester is opened using WaterFox it is a No-Go. Of course my preference (and those of thousands of others) would be to use WaterFox. Can you help ?
Thank you ! smile.gif



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Gaming Graphics : 2299 MB Total available graphics memory.
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Edit: Please ignore, information was incorrect.
Edited by BMT - 11/11/14 at 4:15pm
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