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Yes, tried with multiple tabs as well frown.gif

Why is it that I can replicate it on at least 4 computers? frown.gif

 

Are there any common denominators between the systems? Such as same GPU? Same driver version?

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Why is it that I can replicate it on at least 4 computers?

Did you copy the profile to each of these setups? Does each of your setups have the same extensions and other plugins? What plugins are installed (Java, Flash, etc...)? More information is always best when troubleshooting. I do hope Alex or we collectively can help out.

 

Yes, thanks for helping as well!

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Options-General is empty you can't change any setting,using Waterfox 36.0.1

The problem is Ghostery.

 

Hmm wonder if it gets reported they'll fix it for Waterfox?

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Did you copy the profile to each of these setups? Does each of your setups have the same extensions and other plugins? What plugins are installed (Java, Flash, etc...)? More information is always best when troubleshooting. I do hope Alex or we collectively can help out.

Thanks for the help.

No, they all have different profiles. They all have java, flash, and silverlight installed as plugins. One of my setups have extensions like couchpotato, idm, and trend micro bep extension.

@MrAlex

By the way, there is a software update failure again even though I'm already at 36.0.

 

Yes sorry, using Amazon's Web Services (AWS) and for some reason it's messed up today!! The update files aren't appearing live on the website even though they're physically there! It's driving me mad. They were there yesterday.

 

Here are the URLs if you're interesed:

 

https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/win64/36.0/en-us/release/update.xml

https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/win64/35.0.1/en-us/release/update.xml

 

I can't release 36.0.1 without getting this resolved. Such a pain. Sorry for the inconvenience about this!

    
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Are there any common denominators between the systems? Such as same GPU? Same driver version?

No common denominator between the systems, they have exactly different components and a variation of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. This makes it harder to troubleshoot but I can replicate the same exact issue when Tweaktown articles and heavy flash-based websites are opened.
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No common denominator between the systems, they have exactly different components and a variation of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. This makes it harder to troubleshoot but I can replicate the same exact issue when Tweaktown articles and heavy flash-based websites are opened.

Tried disabling flash/silverlight/java and just trying a full blank run? Tried running ublock? I just opened 10 tabs of tweaktown without abnormal memory usage and have been looking to see whats going on under the hood. ublock is blocking 22-28 urls per page for ad content. Something advertising related could be getting caught up on it.

Also flash is constantly being worked on and modified. I'm running the latest 64bit beta from adobe labs, march 11th as of this post (http://labsdownload.adobe.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/flashplayer/flashplayer17_install_win_pi.exe). The older versions tend to cause a lot of trouble for me, mostly through youtube.

Additionally consider disabling Ghostery if you're running it. A lot of issues have been reported lately in regards to the last couple of updates of the addon, pages loading incorrectly, incorrect formatting, memory leaks and insane cpu usage being on the list.

EDIT: Ha. I just disabled ublock and reloaded 10 tabs in tweaktown to see if its the ads. It's the ads. http://i.imgur.com/HP0Tvwp.png It just kept loading and loading and loading non stop. Waterfox downloaded 700mb over my connection before it started to slow down, but at that stage the program was getting crazy unstable. I attempted to write a reply here but lost it when it finally crashed.

The advertising on the site is complete ****. A single page constantly refreshes each add and seemingly keeps it all in memory. I like tweaktown and all, but their advertising partner is destroying the site.

Additionally I tried it again with firefox and chrome with the same issue. Firefox acts like waterfox and seems to start panicking when all the flash players start loading in the background. Chrome handles the flash very well in terms of CPU usage (pepperflash is quite optimized compared to adobe's NPAPI plugin), however chrome's memory usage was skyrocketting as well. 5 Tabs, no addons saw 2500mb ram across all the open exes, and they were all constantly refreshing and downloading.

All in all, an interesting way to burn through 1gb of my internet quota.
Edited by Morphello - 3/11/15 at 5:55pm
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Tried disabling flash/silverlight/java and just trying a full blank run? Tried running ublock? I just opened 10 tabs of tweaktown without abnormal memory usage and have been looking to see whats going on under the hood. ublock is blocking 22-28 urls per page for ad content. Something advertising related could be getting caught up on it.

Also flash is constantly being worked on and modified. I'm running the latest 64bit beta from adobe labs, march 11th as of this post (http://labsdownload.adobe.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/flashplayer/flashplayer17_install_win_pi.exe). The older versions tend to cause a lot of trouble for me, mostly through youtube.

Additionally consider disabling Ghostery if you're running it. A lot of issues have been reported lately in regards to the last couple of updates of the addon, pages loading incorrectly, incorrect formatting, memory leaks and insane cpu usage being on the list.

I'm sure it is Flash that's causing this but of course everyone needs that for content playback. I have the latest version of Flash, always. Haven't tried running ublock but can that be the solution to my problem?

Not using Ghostery also.
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I'm sure it is Flash that's causing this but of course everyone needs that for content playback. I have the latest version of Flash, always. Haven't tried running ublock but can that be the solution to my problem?

Not using Ghostery also.

I edited my post with more info mate. Basically it seems like the ads are killing it. Tried firefox, chrome and waterfox, same results without adblocking. Running uBlock fixes it perfectly.

Also, the HTML5 player has gotten a lot better, especially with firefox 36. 60fps youtubes are a treat. Its also MUCH lighter to run than flash. Starts faster too due to VP9
Edited by Morphello - 3/11/15 at 6:42pm
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Could you change the behavior of this menu so that clicking "Activate this plugin" activates the plugin rather than having a pop up dialog by the navigation buttons to then activate it?

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I edited my post with more info mate. Basically it seems like the ads are killing it. Tried firefox, chrome and waterfox, same results without adblocking. Running uBlock fixes it perfectly.

Also, the HTML5 player has gotten a lot better, especially with firefox 36. 60fps youtubes are a treat. Its also MUCH lighter to run than flash. Starts faster too due to VP9

That's more like it, mate smile.gif At least we're on the same page now and you were able to reproduce it. I'm downloading ublock now and will let you know. Is ublock the best ad blocking plugin for FF/WF though?

Does youtube default to using HTML5 content nowadays?

@MrAlex

I just got a notification for the 36.0.1 update and told it to apply it. It downloaded and applied flawlessly but when I restarted WF, I got this error:



I checked the version after I clicked OK on this error and it stated at 36.0. How do I fix this?
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That's more like it, mate smile.gif At least we're on the same page now and you were able to reproduce it. I'm downloading ublock now and will let you know. Is ublock the best ad blocking plugin for FF/WF though?

Does youtube default to using HTML5 content nowadays?

@MrAlex

I just got a notification for the 36.0.1 update and told it to apply it. It downloaded and applied flawlessly but when I restarted WF, I got this error:



I checked the version after I clicked OK on this error and it stated at 36.0. How do I fix this?

Youtube doesn't default. https://www.youtube.com/html5 here to switch. Fixed a lot of issues, introduced some new ones, net gain.

uBlock is the best adblocker for every browser it seems. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock I've only started using it recently, however their evidence and my own experience seems to support it is a far superior blocker in both speed and memory efficiency.
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I'm trying to update to 36.0.1 of waterfox, which as stated in the development log supports Vista 64 bit. WF 36.0 gives an error message that I require Windows 7 x64 or higher to install, so I went with 36.0.1.

The error message when trying to install after extracting is "Sorry, Waterfox can't be installed. This version of Waterfox requires Microsoft Windows XP x64 RTM or newer."

I am running Windows Vista x64 Ultimate.
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Youtube doesn't default. https://www.youtube.com/html5 here to switch. Fixed a lot of issues, introduced some new ones, net gain.

uBlock is the best adblocker for every browser it seems. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock I've only started using it recently, however their evidence and my own experience seems to support it is a far superior blocker in both speed and memory efficiency.

Great. I haven't installed it yet because of the busy schedule but will do after a few hours. Thanks again.
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