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So I left two tabs of tweaktown articles opened in the background for around 1-2 hours and doing nothing on the broser. uBlocker says that it blocked around 900 ad site for EACH! And then waterfox.exe is consuming 6GB already and ******* rising! When you exit the tabs, the memory footprint will never go down unless you completely restart the browser.

This is why I was hoping electrolysis would help me solve this long standing problem. Or is there any way around this today?
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No idea re the memory footprint, but you should complain to Tweaktown. There's no reasonable reason for their ads to be bombarding you that much.
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No idea re the memory footprint, but you should complain to Tweaktown. There's no reasonable reason for their ads to be bombarding you that much.

I really wouldn't have the right to complain to a website that's being driven by ads. I guess my question is how do I reclaim the memory back when I exit the tweaktown tabs?
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see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Config.trim_on_minimize

try setting the config.trim_on_minimize to true in about:config

see caveat in the ref.

also, try the free memory options in about:memory

also there are a number of addons to implement a memory recovery via a key combo or a button. search on 'free memory'
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When Firefox enable it I suppose.

I thought this was supposed to be last September?

I also have an issue with WF that's been bugging me for years and it's happening on different computers. I may have told you this a few months ago but sometimes my setting for Privacy history will just go from "Remember History" to "Custom" without my knowledge. Another setting that does this is the "Remember login for sites", sometimes it just becomes unchecked. These are the only two that do this kind of behavior and it's very very annoying. I notice this only when the username and password fields in most sites do not auto-fill as I expect them to do.

Any ideas?

 

You can see here what the release schedule is. And glad you found the culprit.

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Hey guys, so thought I might give you a head up on what I've been working on for the last few months. The ideas for this actually started around the time Storm was released last year but in typical start-up fashion it was managed really bad and ended up failing, the ideas on the other hand were still good so I'm going to go at this solo and would appreciate any feedback.
  • Try and eliminate or minimise as much as possible browser fingerprinting (by utilising Tor button)
  • Switch to compilation with mingw-w64 and Clang which would mean making Windows builds on Linux, which would allow me to utilise Gitian as well as faster build times :-)
  • Set up SSH servers and offer SSH tunneling to them (essentially as an alternative to VPN/Tor routing, but this may be quite difficult to do..I'll have to think of a way to prove that the SSH servers aren't logging anything/collecting anything possibly by using Gitian and depends if people even want this)
  • Bring this to iOS/Android

Am I missing anything? Any other suggestions would be appreciated!

One thing you might be interested in is letting people know about the CanvasBlocker extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/canvasblocker/

Pale Moon implements something like this natively, but Waterfox should be fine with the extension since it's a build off the latest codebase.

I definiitely applaud your pro-privacy stance here, and would again request that you include an installation option allowing users to granularly pick which about:config privacy settings they'd like enabled, e.g.

Disable network prefetch and speculative loading?
Change default search engine to (list of engines e.g. DuckDuckGo, etc)

and then something like "the recommended defaults have been pre-selected"

(I know I originally suggested just one checkbox here, but people should have more flexibility in picking and choosing, I think.)

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EDIT

ALSO

I've also seen repeated complaints that Firefox doesn't run like Chrome or even IE does which is to purposely run with reduced permissions regarding the filesystem so an exploit can't affect system files.

http://www.howtogeek.com/165264/heres-why-firefox-is-still-years-behind-google-chrome/

I don't know if you can "harden" WF at all regarding blocking access to critical system files by making Windows run WF with reduced privileges but if it's possible that would be a great defence in depth.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/04/noscript-and-other-popular-firefox-add-ons-open-millions-to-new-attack/

I know WF allows unsigned add-ons to be installed, but maybe a warning message to a user as a mild defence in depth would be in order: "The extension you want to install is not signed. Proceed anyway? Y/N"

So I'm hoping to implement a sort of Wizard that guides users through what they'd like to have enabled/disabled and how it affects their privacy etc etc. Similar to your suggestions. Also would be a good chance to separate the Waterfox profile to be in a different location while making users aware of this change (which should stop preferences from getting modified by Firefox!).

 

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When Firefox enable it I suppose.

It disables when there are addons that are incompatible.

If you force enable it, the browser goes to hell with problems, bad lag and page rendering/displaying issues (eg. blank or session restore = blank pages).

 

Forgotten what this addon is called,  but this is what it does:

 

That sounds about correct. E10s won't fully roll out to every platform until Firefox 53 assuming no big issues crop up in Beta.

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So I left two tabs of tweaktown articles opened in the background for around 1-2 hours and doing nothing on the broser. uBlocker says that it blocked around 900 ad site for EACH! And then waterfox.exe is consuming 6GB already and ******* rising! When you exit the tabs, the memory footprint will never go down unless you completely restart the browser.

This is why I was hoping electrolysis would help me solve this long standing problem. Or is there any way around this today?

 

Curious, does this occur with Firefox as well? If so might be some back JS programming on TweakTown's part.

 

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No idea re the memory footprint, but you should complain to Tweaktown. There's no reasonable reason for their ads to be bombarding you that much.

I really wouldn't have the right to complain to a website that's being driven by ads. I guess my question is how do I reclaim the memory back when I exit the tweaktown tabs?

 

I mean, once the JS stops getting executed usage should wind down. Odd that it doesn't though.

    
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Yes it does occur with FF too. It seems to be a very common problem. If you Google for the issue you'd come up with a lot of hits with people having this problem for ages already.
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I have to say I've switched back to FF 64bit when I found out that FF itself finally has official 64bit builds even if they are not as easy to get to download and I think the 32bit crap is still the primary version being fed on main page. Reason? Speed and RAM usage, updates, compatibility with plugins, there is always something odd, unusual that makes stuff like WF not so great anymore at certain point. It sure was nice when there was no official 64bit FF.

Tweaktown is nuts, I remember with AdBlock+ it wouldn't sometimes even work at all, it bombards with many Ads no joke. When you block the ads and they detect it they go into big lengths to not show you the webpage lol. uBlock Origin works though now depending on what filters you select but works for me.
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I have to say I've switched back to FF 64bit when I found out that FF itself finally has official 64bit builds even if they are not as easy to get to download and I think the 32bit crap is still the primary version being fed on main page. Reason? Speed and RAM usage, updates, compatibility with plugins, there is always something odd, unusual that makes stuff like WF not so great anymore at certain point. It sure was nice when there was no official 64bit FF.

Tweaktown is nuts, I remember with AdBlock+ it wouldn't sometimes even work at all, it bombards with many Ads no joke. When you block the ads and they detect it they go into big lengths to not show you the webpage lol. uBlock Origin works though now depending on what filters you select but works for me.

Do you mean uBlock origin works for you in Tweaktown?
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see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Config.trim_on_minimize

try setting the config.trim_on_minimize to true in about:config

see caveat in the ref.

also, try the free memory options in about:memory

also there are a number of addons to implement a memory recovery via a key combo or a button. search on 'free memory'

Thanks. Free Memory 2.0 works for me in freeing up the used memory. Tweaktown sucks big time!
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I can't figure out a good place to ask about this but since MrAlex tweaks things a lot smile.gif

What I've noticed with older implementations of Firefox is that even if you do not bookmark a site, if you go back to it a lot, what happens is that the URL dropdown bar will move the site up in the rankings so past a certain point you can just type part of the URL, down-arrow once, Enter, and you're in.

Now, however, in new Firefox versions this seems to no longer happen.

Can an expert in the FF history ranking algorithm elaborate as to how MrAlex could restore the older behavior for UI consistency?
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