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I am trying to import bookmarks AND SETTINGS from Waterfox to Chrome using this instruction http://browsers.about.com/od/googlechrome/ss/import-firefox-bookmarks-to-google-chrome_3.htm, but somehow my Chrome can't see Waterfox in list of browsers. Is there any way to fix it? Thank you.
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Doubt you can fix that unless Google supports Waterfox, which I doubt they will. Also, I've found using imported bookmarks and settings from Firefox to Chrome tends to screw things up. I'd suggest manually exporting your bookmarks from Firefox and importing them in Chrome, then spending a few minutes setting Chrome's settings to match Firefox's.
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I think quite a few issues can be solved by registry entries. So I'll be testing out the installer soon and it should fix the shortcut issues and the likes everyone gets.

    
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It'd also help if people uninstall before upgrading. tongue.gif Many of the issues are from updating from older Waterfox builds to the newer ones.
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It'd also help if people uninstall before upgrading. tongue.gif Many of the issues are from updating from older Waterfox builds to the newer ones.

 

Any build before v14 otherwise there should be no issues biggrin.gif

    
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Probably also related to these problems with default browser etc.



Error given by Thunderbird when trying to open http-link from email.

"Open new windows in a new tab instead" is of course selected in WF options.
Edited by Jarkko - 9/9/12 at 12:23pm
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Usually that just means either a) you're attempting to run Waterfox at the same time as Firefox or vice versa or b) the waterfox.exe or firefox.exe executables are still running while trying to start another instance. If that's the case then you can fix it by ending the running processes via task manager and trying again.
Edited by Lord Venom - 9/9/12 at 8:17pm
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The advantage to having a built-in PDF reader is two fold. First, it speeds up the process of opening PDF files in your browser. Usually, your PDF program installs a browser plug-in, such as the Adobe PDF Reader, into the browser.
Completely agree, this will be faster if only by avoiding the load time of Adobe Reader, or any other browser. Also, another speed advantage is that there will be much less inefficient IPC (Inter Process Communication) between 2 completely separate processes: Adobe Reader and Firefox + Adobe Reader Plugin (replace Adobe Reader by any other external PDF reader you may use). Finally, with JavaScript being so efficient in recent browsers including Firefox, and the pdf.js viewer being lighter than full-blown PDF reader (reuses lots of Firefox for displaying things and focuses on mere PDF reading) the actual pdf.js implementation is likely to more than hold its own against Adobe and others.
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Secondly, using the Mozilla built-in reader should offer more security against infected PDF file attacks. The most popular PDF readers, mainly Adobe Reader, is notorious for it’s security issues. With Mozilla's built-in reader, we hope to get a more stable and secure way to view these files online.
I couldn't disagree more here however. Firefox by itself is not a secure browser, it is currently the less secure browser available, even slightly worse than Internet Explorer. Why? Because it is a monolithic process, without isolation / sandboxing (all tabs from all sites are in the same execution & memory space) and without privileges minimized (since there is only one process, that process has to hold all the privileges that are needed for the execution of the sum of all features, including add-ons. Also, Firefox doesn't have strict add-ons authentication system (possible to install any add-on you may wish) and the add-ons run in the same space as the rest of Firefox (again). So if any component becomes corrupt (rendering engine, protocolizer, add-ons, javascript etc) then there is no barrier to prevent the corruption to spread in the easiest way to the other components. Which also means that if a tab becomes corrupt due to browsing malicious resource (and no, nobody can ever filter out malicious resources just for being smart, legit sites get infected too) then if any other open tab is dealing with sensitive private data of yours (e-banking being the prime example) then you're screwed.
Too bad, Firefox project Electrolysis has been put on hold, it was the only credible answer to Firefox security woes. Now Firefox enjoys a reputation of security in the crowd because years ago, all the browsers had the same monolithic insecure design and Mozilla was at least coming on top when it came to reactivity (security patches). But that is only acting as a fireman; you are on reactive mode, rather than proactive mode.
Now for PDF.js, the PDF specification is really in the same ballpark as HTML5 + Javascript + image formats (JPG, PNG etc) when it comes to complexity. And all of this is implemented in JavaScript, a language that doesn't even have typing by default and is really not meant for implementing secure SW. All of this tracing too FF's JIT JavaScript engine, which I agree provides some exceptions (type inference etc) that may help for security but in no means, allow JavaScript to become a secure language (it takes more than that for it). Therefore displaying PDF from the web (untrusted location by excellence) in the browser execution space, in JavaScript, is the opposite to security. At least Adobe is trying to patch their browser often and they have a real sandboxing in Adobe Reader X, that limits the damage that can be done if a corruption occurs.
The best example on the opposite, for a secure browser (by design) is Chrome.
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Browse to a site that has a “.PDF” extension and try it out. Perhaps this will solve the security woes that sometimes come with Adobe and perhaps make the browsing experience a bit faster as well.
As said above, yes for speed, but a BIG NO, NO, regarding security
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I don't know why this is not being enabled by default yet, but, there is probably a good reason. It may not be ready for Prime Time yet.
Functionally and stability wise I believe Firefox developers don't think it is ready for Prime Time yet, indeed.
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Originally Posted by Lord Venom View Post

Usually that just means either a) you're attempting to run Waterfox at the same time as Firefox or vice versa or b) the waterfox.exe or firefox.exe executables are still running while trying to start another instance. If that's the case then you can fix it by ending the running processes via task manager and trying again.

Could be, but in this case it just means that WF isn't working as it should.
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Originally Posted by EliasAlucard View Post

Waterfox 15 still doesn't have a unique user agent string, but uses the Firefox user agent:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120830 Firefox/15.0
^^ Please fix this, so that it can be identified how many people are actually using Waterfox. This is what the UA in PaleMoon looks like:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110619 Firefox/3.6.18 (Palemoon/3.6.18)
I see no good reason why Waterfox shouldn't have its own user agent string.

I think it is better to keep the user string as FF. Some websites will say they dont support this browser as they dont know about it.
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