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Originally Posted by nevets1219 View Post

I've yet to to test without any addons but has anyone noticed that when leaving Waterfox on for extended periods of time it becomes fairly unresponsive? Any interactions usually leads to CPU usage spiking. I've already uninstalled and re-installed and the next thing to try is disabling addons but perhaps someone has already noticed something. Should I also try a completely new profile?

I have All-In-One Sidebar, Download Statusbar, NoScript, Status-4-Evar, Tab Mix Plus, etc. Tab Mix Plus is set to display 3 rows of tabs and usually scrolling up and down is smooth since I have more than 3 rows of tabs. However, Waterfox just becomes unresponsive until I restart it then it's fine for the time being.

Not sure if relevant, but after some Windows updates, Waterfox, and all other iterations of it, be it Cyberfox etc, have been playing up for me, having CPU spikes, and subsequently mouse lag. It's gone away now after I performed a BIOS update. Not sure if it's entirely the same as your issue, but hopefully it helps.
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Solution to the "no icon"-problem:

I don't know if this has already been addressed but for all those who are encountering the issue that Waterfox displays a "blank" icon in the taskbar when opened here is the solution (the problem results from an older version that hasn't been correctly removed):

-Open Waterfox
-Right-click on the "blank" icon in the taskbar
-Click on Waterfox: Windows now tells you that the target file "firefox.exe" can't be found and asks you whether you want to remove the shortcut.
-Click yes

You're done. This also solves the problem that Waterfox displays two icons when opened and pinned to the taskbar.
Edited by Montezuma - 3/1/13 at 2:35am
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Originally Posted by Swift Castiel View Post

It's gone away now after I performed a BIOS update. Not sure if it's entirely the same as your issue, but hopefully it helps.

Such behavior might very well be a side-effect of too aggressive power management, i.e. the computer going to power saving mode after some time and refusing to wake up - that's when the cpu spikes occur because any action provoke max cpu usage in the slowed down powersaving mode.

But in these cases it's really best to disable all addons and a) use a new/default profile and see if the error occurs again, b) run a burn-in test to see if the computer has a hardware problem, c) use a default/new windows account to see if some windows settings are broken. However and unfortunately, power saving bios problems with low load aren't that easy to diagnose as problems while the load is high :-\
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Well in case you guys didn't see my edit, I've tried Firefox with the profile I was using in Waterfox and noticed the same issue albeit not as bad. I've then started up Firefox in Safe Mode to see if I still get it.

I had slight suspicions about it being a Windows Update since I don't recall any addon updates but I did definitely get caught up on all the Windows Updates. I believe I've disabled all power management but I'll double check again. I believe for the most part I'm caught up on all BIOS updates but again, I'll double check. Maybe graphics card drivers update might help.

EDIT: Updated graphics drivers to latest. Set power management to "high performance" - this may have gotten reset somehow (or maybe I didn't do it).
Edited by nevets1219 - 3/1/13 at 1:40pm
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No I don't understand stupid Adobe.

A "downloader" does not need to be marked 32bit or 64bit since it isn't actually a program.

They should remove x32 from the name of the "downloader" and then make it clear that this "downloader" will install 32 or 64 depending on what you need.

There is almost no documentation on this and with the x32 in the file name and no other mention of a bit type, then I assume that 32bit is installed since 32bit is usually default and it can be used on 64bit browsers also.

Yes but the thing is with that online install from Adobe, you get both x32 flash and x64 flash already, so what's the problem?

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That is correct.

But better than using the download manager, download the full (offline) installers:
for IE: download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/support/install_flash_player_ax.exe
for Firefox/Waterfox: download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/support/install_flash_player.exe

Do those contain both x64 and x32 plugin versions for each browser?

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But better than using the download manager, download the full (offline) installers:
for IE: download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/support

... but before using Flash for IE 9 and below better use IE 10, it just appeared for Win7 and like Chrome has internal flash support, so it updates with the browser. That's because in 99% of cases you really don't need IE, but there's 1% of websites (esp. internal/corporate) that are still "optimized" for IE :-\
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Do those contain both x64 and x32 plugin versions for each browser?

Yes, I've been using these for a long time since I'm very wary of downloaders posing as installers... btw the offline versions also contain a version check and refuse to install if they think they're outdated.

Edit: I just checked again since I didn't have the latest Flash installed (I use noscript & flashblock, so less area for flash attacks): the offline installer puts NPSWF64_11_6_602_171.dll into \Windows\System32\Macromed\Flash next to the 32-bit version NPSWF32_11_6_602_171.dll in \Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash

This all cleared it up.

The normal link you get has x32 in the file name but that's because it's just a download manager for Flash.
The downloader actually downloads both x32 and x64 into the directories listed by Marsu24.
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64bit = .\Windows\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF64_11_6_602_171.dll
32bit = .\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32_11_6_602_171.dll

The offline file has no x32 in the name and doesn't download anything.
It just installs both the files just like the downloader does.

So that's that.

Flash is 64bit.


Poor designs that caused confusion:
1. No need for a 32bit marked downloader app. Just give me install file.
2. No documentation stating that it installs both 32bit and 64bit files.
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 3/1/13 at 11:00am
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This all cleared it up.

The normal link you get has x32 in the file name but that's because it's just a download manager for Flash.
The downloader actually downloads both x32 and x64 into the directories listed by Marsu24.
The offline file has no x32 in the name and doesn't download anything.
It just installs both the files just like the downloader does.

No that's that.

Flash is 64bit.

Yup, that's what I was trying to tell you but you won't believe me smile.gif
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This all cleared it up.

The normal link you get has x32 in the file name but that's because it's just a download manager for Flash.
The downloader actually downloads both x32 and x64 into the directories listed by Marsu24.
The offline file has no x32 in the name and doesn't download anything.
It just installs both the files just like the downloader does.

No that's that.

Flash is 64bit.

Yup, that's what I was trying to tell you but you won't believe me smile.gif

I did believe you but i was looking for proof and that was provided kindly by Marsu24.

Still thank you very much for helping me out!!! thumb.gif
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I did believe you but i was looking for proof and that was provided kindly by Marsu24.

Still thank you very much for helping me out!!! thumb.gif

Oh ok. Glad to be of help thumb.gif
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... but before using Flash for IE 9 and below better use IE 10, it just appeared for Win7 and like Chrome has internal flash support, so it updates with the browser.
That is false.

IE10 on Windows 8 has a built-in Flash Player that is updated via Windows Update.

IE10 for Windows 7 uses the standard Adobe Flash Player ActiveX, and needs to be installed manually.
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For those wondering, I've tried a new profile and that seems to have improved situations and I had thought the problem solved. But after playing some Borderlands the issue came back again. I think it's related to KB2670838 and hardware acceleration in Firefox / Waterfox. At the moment, I've uninstalled KB2670838 - hopefully that's the problem. Do you guys have hardware acceleration disabled in Waterfox (see Options > Advanced > General)?
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