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Can't say I know - I can't remember if I had Flash issues before or after the update. I'm thinking before but that issue went away for me somehow.

Oh ok. My real main problem here is stuttering during Flash playback so I don't know if this update affects it or not.

When you had the update installed, where you experiencing browser microstutter only in WF? Or even in FF and IE?
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WF and FF. I think I tried IE but I can't remember the result.
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Oh ok. My real main problem here is stuttering during Flash playback so I don't know if this update affects it or not.

When you had the update installed, where you experiencing browser microstutter only in WF? Or even in FF and IE?
i say just uninstall it, if it doesn't solve the problem. Then reinstall the update (its still there in windows update after, just its show'd as a optional update now instead of a "suggested" one)
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i say just uninstall it, if it doesn't solve the problem. Then reinstall the update (its still there in windows update after, just its show'd as a optional update now instead of a "suggested" one)

Oh ok, I'll try that then. Thanks.
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I just tried uninstalling KB2670838 and surprisingly it also uninstalled IE10. I then tried installing IE10 again (without installing back KB2670838) and surprisingly KB2670838 was automatically installed. I guess they come in partners.
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@NomakeWan: if the latest Firefox doesn't have this issue, I'd suggesting looking through Firefox's patch notes and seeing what has changed. Assuming it was one of the changes, there might be a workaround. Here's a start but that only goes up to 19.0.2 and here is a quick search of some issues. Searching Bugzilla or posting on Firefox's forum is probably the best way to track it down. Again, if you can narrow it down to the two version, you should have an easier time searching for a resolution.

EDIT: Maybe looking through here too. I'm not all that familiar with how they bug track so I'm not sure what status to look for besides resolved.

EDIT: If you are feeling adventurous, you could probably get a tool here and try to debug it yourself.
I'll see if I can pin down at least which version solved the problem. I know it didn't exist in WF 16, it exists in WF 18.0.1 (and from user reports also in FF 18.0.1), and does not exist in FF 22.0a1. If I can pin down which FF code change solved things, that'll at the least tell me which version of WF I need to wait for before going back. thumb.gif
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hmm uninstalling the KB2670838 update might have fixed it... but only time will tell tbh since my micro stutter is random. @_@
The way I test for micro-stutter being fixed is by, with all tabs loaded (45-50), opening a forum I frequent and starting a new post. I then simply type into the reply window at least five paragraphs' worth of content (mostly just 'talking to myself' about how annoying microstutter is, things like that). If I can type the whole thing straight through without the browser freezing or losing words then it's fixed. If it freezes, then there you go.
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I was curious to see if Firefox 19.0.2 had the same micro-stuttering issue for me as WF 18.0.1 did, so I tried it out today.

It turns out it does not and is in fact working perfectly for me.
Clearly the "Don't load tabs until selected" feature is worth it's weight in gold (as I have 100+ tabs open right now - not all have been selected - and just under 1GB RAM is being used).

I think until an updated version of Waterfox is released, I'm just going to stick with Firefox (unless it starts crashing due to excessive memory use again).
I'd reverted to WF 16.0.1 in the meanwhile as that didn't have any performance issues for me, but did not like the idea of living with the vulnerabilities it had any longer.

If anything, FF 19.0.2 actually seems to provide better performance than WF 16.0.1 did.
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Clearly the "Don't load tabs until selected" feature is worth it's weight in gold (as I have 100+ tabs open right now - not all have been selected - and just under 1GB RAM is being used).
To the user who was experiencing problems with flash video, enabling this option reduced my dropped frames count in YouTube to 3 over the length of the test video. It was actually 1 (right at the beginning when switching modes, it hardly even counted) but then it dropped two frames a few minutes in when the browser went to dump data to disk. All in all I'd say that's pretty impressive from a browser I've come to associate with somewhat clunky video playback. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by NomakeWan View Post

To the user who was experiencing problems with flash video, enabling this option reduced my dropped frames count in YouTube to 3 over the length of the test video. It was actually 1 (right at the beginning when switching modes, it hardly even counted) but then it dropped two frames a few minutes in when the browser went to dump data to disk. All in all I'd say that's pretty impressive from a browser I've come to associate with somewhat clunky video playback. thumb.gif

It did some decrease dropped frames in my case but there are still a lot of them! frown.gif
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Not to try and stress Mr.Alex or anything but it would be really interesting to know if he did any test builds on the beta v20.
I just can't wait to get an up to date version of Waterfox..thumb.gif

I really love your work Mr.Alex.. I hope you find the time to continue this work up to the point where Mozilla understands that we all want a x64 native client.

Thank you so much for all you've done so far and please know that you have ALLOT of supporters out on the net. wink.gif

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