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Where is the source code??
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Originally Posted by LzbeL View Post

Where is the source code??
It's a straight compile from Mozilla's Firefox source code. If you want Waterfox's source code, all you have to do is grab Firefox's because they are the same. Mr Alex just compiles it differently than Mozilla does.
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Originally Posted by Freakie View Post

It's a straight compile from Mozilla's Firefox source code. If you want Waterfox's source code, all you have to do is grab Firefox's because they are the same. Mr Alex just compiles it differently than Mozilla does.

Waterfox is a fork of the Mozilla source code, so that the source code is not the same. If I had the same source code, it would be identical to Mozilla, which does not. I want the source code of Waterfox.
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Originally Posted by LzbeL View Post

Waterfox is a fork of the Mozilla source code, so that the source code is not the same. If I had the same source code, it would be identical to Mozilla, which does not. I want the source code of Waterfox.
Ok, how is it different from Firefox? The fact that it says Waterfox everywhere that it should say Firefox? The Nightly color scheme and icon? The Waterfox updater?

Obviously the color scheme and icon are directly from Mozilla, and the updater is a separate program in both Firefox and Waterfox, so it isn't compiled even with Mozilla's source code.

I do believe that literally the only thing Mr. Alex changes is the name, and then ads his updater as a separate program (though it may still be based on Mozilla's, you'll have to ask him). Now what he does do is change certain flags and compiling parameters when he compiles his version of Firefox to optimize certain sections of the code for a faster end-product, but this isn't changing the code its self per-say, just compiling it a certain way. What that means is that while some sections of Waterfox are compiled the same way as Firefox, there are sections that he compiles differently so that those sections run faster in the finished software because they are using the latest coding implementations instead of the more universal ones that such a big-release software uses. That's it, all he does it compile it with the latest compiling tools to make it as fast as possible on hardware that supports those instructions sets.

And no, he does not release exactly step-by-step every single thing he does to compile Waterfox. From what we can tell, his process is his own and he chooses to do things that way because he wants Waterfox to be "bleeding edge". If you want to compile Firefox into an x64 format with the latest bleeding edge technology, then grab the Firefox source code like he does and have at it!

EDITED for clarity
Edited by Freakie - 1/18/14 at 12:56am
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PS. If Waterfox has the same issue Pale Moon does with not showing a title bar in the browser ( http://i.imgur.com/BnyyLfm.png ) there's a CSS fix for that if you hand edit the userChrome.css with the style from here:

http://userstyles.org/styles/41025/firefox-bring-the-title-back
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Initial impressions from a FF user is that Waterfox 26 is noticeably smoother. This is especially apparent when using Youtube or Vimeo, with either 64 bit flash or HTML5 video. The videos stuttered intermittently on 32 bit browsers with 32 bit plugins but this has largely disappeared with Waterfox. applaud.gif
This makes you wonder about all the procrastinating that Mozilla has done about the 'non-importance' of 64 bit browsing. Waterfox PROVES how important it is.

Just been using Waterfox for a few days and have noticed how Waterfox is missing 2 options in Data Choices. This is probably removed due to performance reasons but it would be nice to at least have the option of Telemetry and Crash Reporting for users that want to contribute.




P.S.

Telemetry is still available via about:telemetry

Another niggle I have found is geolocation in Firefox and Watefox is inoperative. Don't know of the reason, whether it's new Waterfox install or problem with Firefox base?? Notice that Waterfox doesn't ask for geo permissions.





Might have something to do with this: http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3621

Does anybody else experience or know about this? Workarounds?

Thankyou for your patience.wink.gif

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hi with recent coming changes to firefox (Australis) i started to look for another browser to replace firefox i read on mozillazine about waterfox
thought i would give it a try.

now before i switch over to waterfox as default browser i just need a few questions answered please. i can't help notice waterfox 26 current release is built from beta source code
and not from the official release build with all the security fixes applied one been a very important one for SSL and Mozilla security library's version info below.
so i had a look at other waterfox builds witch to my surprise a few of them were build from a beta source code version and not the release version with all patches applied. my question
is there a reason why waterfox is built like this. maybe because of the Intel tool used??. now i also get random flash player crashes i have tried all trouble shooting its just random also on my laptop this happens.

before i fully commit where is waterfoxs source code for the latest release as i would like to inspect it before fully committing my findings with the rest of my questions.
thank you kindly


Waterfox

Library Versions


NSPR
Expected minimum version: 4.10.2
Version in use: 4.10.2

NSS
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3 Basic ECC

NSSSMIME
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3 Basic ECC

NSSSSL
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3 Basic ECC

NSSUTIL
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3
Version in use: 3.15.3

Firefox

NSPR
Expected minimum version: 4.10.2
Version in use: 4.10.2

NSS
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC

NSSSMIME
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC

NSSSSL
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC

NSSUTIL
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3.1
Version in use: 3.15.3.1
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Originally Posted by nick fuller View Post

hi with recent coming changes to firefox (Australis) i started to look for another browser to replace firefox i read on mozillazine about waterfox
thought i would give it a try.

now before i switch over to waterfox as default browser i just need a few questions answered please. i can't help notice waterfox 26 current release is built from beta source code
and not from the official release build with all the security fixes applied one been a very important one for SSL and Mozilla security library's version info below.
so i had a look at other waterfox builds witch to my surprise a few of them were build from a beta source code version and not the release version with all patches applied. my question
is there a reason why waterfox is built like this. maybe because of the Intel tool used??. now i also get random flash player crashes i have tried all trouble shooting its just random also on my laptop this happens.

before i fully commit where is waterfoxs source code for the latest release as i would like to inspect it before fully committing my findings with the rest of my questions.
thank you kindly
There is no difference between the last beta and release, only the same difference between for each beta and release.
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Originally Posted by mischa143 View Post

Another niggle I have found is geolocation in Firefox and Watefox is inoperative. Don't know of the reason, whether it's new Waterfox install or problem with Firefox base?? Notice that Waterfox doesn't ask for geo permissions.
Yes, waterfox ask the geo permission (for me). But yes not works, this is a problem Firefox
http://www.ghacks.net/2013/10/04/firefoxs-geolocation-feature-appears-broken-recent-versions/
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Then Waterfox is proprietary, no? :S
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Originally Posted by fullmoon View Post

There is no difference between the last beta and release, only the same difference between for each beta and release.
Yes, waterfox ask the geo permission (for me). But yes not works, this is a problem Firefox
http://www.ghacks.net/2013/10/04/firefoxs-geolocation-feature-appears-broken-recent-versions/

obviously there is a difference between the beta source and the release source as these security patches were applied to what mozilla calls a release candidate from what i was reading about the build system. firefox 26 official release version was built from release candidate build 2 some security patches were applied in release candidate build 1 but the finally ones were added in release candidate build 2.

witch fixed the following issues.

https://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2013/mfsa2013-117.html
https://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2013/mfsa2013-114.html
https://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2013/mfsa2013-111.html
https://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2013/mfsa2013-108.html
https://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2013/mfsa2013-104.html

this is way the library version are different meaning waterfox was built from a beta version of firefox source code

Waterfox

Library Versions

NSPR
Expected minimum version: 4.10.2
Version in use: 4.10.2

NSS
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3 Basic ECC

NSSSMIME
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3 Basic ECC

NSSSSL
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3 Basic ECC

NSSUTIL
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3
Version in use: 3.15.3

Firefox

NSPR
Expected minimum version: 4.10.2
Version in use: 4.10.2

NSS
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC

NSSSMIME
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC

NSSSSL
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC
Version in use: 3.15.3.1 Basic ECC

NSSUTIL
Expected minimum version: 3.15.3.1
Version in use: 3.15.3.1

thats why i asked the question about the reason this is so. is this because of the intel tool used to build waterfox as to why these security patches were left out ?? after reading more about it i have switched back to firefox until i get an answer from the waterfox developer also when the current waterfox version is update with the above issues fixed redface.gif
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