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well i thought i would get a reply to my question from the waterfox developer by now on http://www.overclock.net/t/975626/waterfox-26-0-25-december-firefox-64-bit/5530#post_21608903
but i guess not im unsure if this is even the right place to contact the waterfox support as it seems to be in tatters multiple places to post message but none of them get a reply does the waterfox developer even provide support for waterfox i can't seem to find the right place to contact to get my question answered.

i personally am a very busy person but always have time to do plenty of stuff online even on the go with my windows phone so i just can't fathom why its so hard to get a response for a support question i have 3 jobs and do night schooling to further my education but still have plenty of time to fulfill my hobbies.

i also wish to download waterfoxes source code.

http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/2.0/ at 3.1 & 3.2

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can you please provide the modified source code to the released version of waterfox


now on this topic below:
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Originally Posted by kronckew View Post

it might be true that those dlls are slightly different, that is not in question.

your calling waterfox a 'beta' and thus somehow substandard, is a conclusion based on your observation of the different version number in those libraries rather than any statement by mozilla or mr alex that they are inferior beta code. that different number doesn't mean the code is beta, just that it may have a difference somewhere, maybe not even in an active function, might be correcting a misspelled name or comment, you'd need to decompile and reverse engineer the libraries and go thru all the functions, and as waterfox is compiled with a different compiler and switches, that would be a daunting task. paranoia should be tempered with reason. your proof doesn't meet the 'beyond a reasonable doubt' criteria to convict. is it possible? yes. is it proven, i do not think so. at worst it might be 'RC'.

even if the dll's are slightly older versions, the main code is 'release'. the slight differences are likely meaningless. it is interesting that no matter what the version numbers, the last modified dates on the dlls are two days NEWER on the waterfox versions.

if you don't like that, copy the dlls from a 64 bit nightly, they 3.15.5.0, they're the latest.
might not work tho.

there are more important things in life to worry about.

waterfox works, is v26, and is faster on the systems it's designed for.

you should not be depending on any minor security imperfections in waterfox v. firefox to ensure your system's security, your security should be based on a layered defence with a firewall (hardware &/or software), anti-malware, HIPS, web filtering, sandboxing, ip blocklists, browser extensions, etc. etc. the browser inbuilt security should not ever need to be triggered.

people are too critical, you want mr alex to publish a waterfox immediately after firefox is released then complain when it is slightly different than mozillas version. use mozilla's then. i'd rather see mr alex devote his time to getting ready for the next version with australis. it's gonna take a lot of work.

this reminds me of a post on another forum, a school janitor was castigated for putting a yellow 'caution - wet floor' warning sign on a spot he'd just mopped up because someone might trip over the sign.

please if you cant intellectually comprehend the nature or mentally process the information i have provided please dont bog down my chance at getting a reply you best option is to read about firefox build system and how it all works then do a little researching into the actual nature of these security patches thus learning how they work you anti malware programs on quite a few of these issues are incapable of detecting an problem leaving you open to what ever the exploit is i suggest you look into it further.
Edited by nick fuller - 1/28/14 at 6:29am
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i understand your attack, 'intellectually'. i'm sorry you do not like criticism.

i happen to disagree with both your argument and methodology. and the implied insults.
i see no proof that the differences are either important or a security risk or worth demonising waterfox or challenging mr alex's competence. you should supply proof, not me.

i will not lend credence by arguing further. the other users may weigh and decide for themselves.

i shall await comment by mr. alex, who, as the unpaid third party builder of waterfox, is the one who can add more specifics.

i do note again that mozilla is the developer, not mr alex.

support is at mr alex's whim, as he has no contract with either of us to provide support within any time-frame
other than at his leisure.

most of us have better things to worry about.

i'm taking my dog out for her sundown poo now. which matters more to me at the moment.

i shall comment no more on this. i await the next release and again thank mr alex for his efforts.
Edited by kronckew - 1/28/14 at 8:55am
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Mr Fuller,

I can appreciate anyone's effort to try and figure things out on their own or understand a program through the source, but I wonder why you have to make such a request sound so threatening by quoting GPL...as if that will make someone cower and do your bidding in an instance. I for for one understand that Mr Alex is busy and as stated before has no real obligation to anyone on this thread or any user of Waterfox beyond wanting to offer something alternative to what Firefox has to offer. He does this freely in the time he has available for such a thing. I appreciate that this guy is putting his schooling before this program, for that is what will matter for far longer than the life of what is now a gift from him to the world. I don't know if it is just me, but you sound like quite an arrogant person when you don't get things in a time frame you feel is adequate, which I am sure means you are quite frustrated A LOT. What started as a discussion on the quality of the Waterfox build has turned into snide remarks on other's intelligence and just generally being a nuisance. I don't know the relevance of stating you work three jobs and do night schooling has to do with anything, but I feel you are trying to impress us with your schedule, which means nothing in here and why your post seems arrogant. No one has been hostile to you and don't deserve your snide remarks because they don't agree with you. I found your points interesting at first, but now it seems you are only out to criticize a great program for nothing more than to stroke your own ego and impress us with this intellect you aren't shy to tell us about. Good luck with the jobs and night school.
Edited by seti - 1/29/14 at 12:01am
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awesome job  man top marks even works on slow net converted a chrome user and another user rep+

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post #5545 of 7341
What happened to the promised patch for the user agent bug?
post #5546 of 7341
MrAlex, can you please change the "Hosted by SourceForge" button on the main page? It's not hosted there anymore.
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Originally Posted by PalZer0 View Post

What happened to the promised patch for the user agent bug?

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Originally Posted by Daikun View Post

MrAlex, can you please change the "Hosted by SourceForge" button on the main page? It's not hosted there anymore.
Patience guys. MrAlex is a busy guy, which has been said before. As a university student, I know how it is to balance classes and the work with a job and personal projects. Usually the personal projects are put on the back burner, before I can really do anything with them.
post #5548 of 7341
I didn't mean to sound ungrateful. That being said, according to this blog post, there was supposed to be a patch for the user agent issues already released.

I'm just looking for a status update as it's been nearly a month since that blog post was made. If there's one thing I've learned from witnessing many a failed/buggy game launch (particularly BF4's launch), it's that regular and honest communication is better than silence.
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Originally Posted by PalZer0 View Post

I didn't mean to sound ungrateful. That being said, according to this blog post, there was supposed to be a patch for the user agent issues already released.

I'm just looking for a status update as it's been nearly a month since that blog post was made. If there's one thing I've learned from witnessing many a failed/buggy game launch (particularly BF4's launch), it's that regular and honest communication is better than silence.

Don't worry about it. We get so many people that come into the thread demanding Waterfox this, Waterfox that, as if they think they are paying MrAlex to develop an entire browser, or something.

Hmm... I see what you mean. Like I said though, maybe he has been busy and it was thrown on the back burner for a while. Just be patient, I am sure MrAlex will fix it sooner or later. For now, just follow the guide and fix it manually, like I did.
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Originally Posted by VIKINGS View Post

I just reinstalled my windows and now it seems that waterfox has an annoying "Downloads" button in the top corner featuring annoying popups every time a download is finished. Is there any way to remove it please, as I use download statusbar? I tried to right click the menu>customize, but while the Customize Toolbar window is opened the button dissapears, soon as i close the window the freaking thing appears again!!!...sozo.gif

Here's a pic so you can see exactly what button I'm talking about:

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Originally Posted by Quantum Reality View Post

http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/955403

Someone who wanted the older setup reinstated. That said, the tookitUI thing may not work anymore.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2033461/how-to-switch-back-to-firefoxs-old-download-manager.html

May or may not work.

MrAlex, in the event you have time to do more customization than the compiler optimizations, is there any chance you could modify the Waterfox code to separate browser and download history memorization, as well as to reinstate the old download manager?

Pale Moon does this, but they build for stability rather than speed or jazziness, so Waterfox could be positioned as a good middle ground between Pale Moon and Firefox. Especially since I am given to understand the compiler optimizations can really pack a punch, speedwise.

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The tookitUI worked, thank you very much.

Well tookUI doesn't work anymore, the browser keeps reverting the setting every time I restart.frown.gif( Any other suggestions please?
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