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Hello again.

Just today received an article on file recovery.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2147668/how-to-recover-deleted-files.html#tk.nl_today

Also recommend using MozBackup to backup and restore your Mozilla based product profiles. Works for Firefox, Thunderbird and Sea Monkey.

Chas
Waterfox is using the Firefox profile directory. Meaning they are the same when you launch them. If you don't set them up to use separate profiles manually.
It has been covered several times in this thread. When asked in either of the uninstallers to remove personal data, answer NO. Or you lose your profile data.
And also, while experimenting with new software, always keep backups.smile.gif
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I too have been watching the newest developments with Firefox and the Cyberfox creators' decision to 'fork' it, using the old UI.

If I may add my opinion here, I think that Waterfox should remain a faithful 64-bit Firefox 'clone'. The reason that we all (or at least, most of us) started using Waterfox was *not* that we wanted a different browser, but that we wanted the browser we all loved, only in 64-bits. Had we wanted an entirely new browser, we would have used Chrome, Opera or IE (God forbid).

I believe that, in the long term, the decision to 'fork' Cyberfox will work against them. As time passes and new versions of Firefox come out, the gap between Firefox and Cyberfox will only widen, the number of Firefox add-ons that won't work in Cyberfox will only increase, and the profiles of Firefox and Cyberfox will become more and more incompatible.
I don't know if there will be a tool to convert the profiles back and forth -- for the moment, there is a 'copy' tool that will 'migrate' your Firefox profile to the Cyberfox directories, but not the other way around -- but as newer versions come out, the settings and other stored data will only become more and more different.

Even worse, the add-ons (and plug-ins) for Firefox will be made to work under the Australis infrastructure, whereby I seriously doubt that they'll be compatible with the old UI that Cyberfox will be using, especially after a few versions have been released.

All in all... yes, Australis may *suck* (or it may not, it's personal preference), but Waterfox should stay true to what it always has been: a 64-bit variant of Firefox.
Let each user worry about the UI and whether they like or want to use Australis, or use some add-on and keep the old "look and feel".

...my 5 pence.
Edited by skagon - 5/6/14 at 7:38am
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My two cents on going past 28.0...
I am running 64-bit nightly Firefox builds on my Linux machines, currently up to 31-nightly. I hate running 32-bit builds on 64-bit machines wink.gif
While I hesitated quite a bit before using the 29-nightly, I got pretty much used to it, in particular with add-ons like Classic Theme Restorer, which allows to move tabs etc. the way they were before.
I do think Waterfox should follow the Firefox 29+ path.
Don't create a fork, which takes a lot of time and effort to maintain. MrAlex is busy as it is, from what I can see from his posts...
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I am pissed with Mozilla for the Australis (as much as you can be pissed to a company which provides you with free software, but hey it is the internet smile.gif).
I have tried Pale Moon so far and it is quite nice. I see that Waterfox might a bit faster and I see the faster release cycle as reducing the risk of add-on incompatibility in the future.
The point is I don't like Australis and I want it out (I know some user above made quite compelling arguments for the opposite and it is a matter of taste and balance of effort and etc.).

So the question is - do we have an official statement from Waterfox project managers on the topic? Thanks.
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AMDlm, you can contact the waterfox staff directly here. (except the financial and purchasing managers who you'll need to contact thru the CEO's general secretary)

smile.gif waterfox project staff directory:

CEO: mr. alex
information technology manager: mr. alex
project managers: mr. alex, mr. alex
resource developement manager: mr. alex
purchasing manager: mr. alex's father
production manager: mr. alex
transportation manager: mr. alex
technical manager: mr. alex
operations manager: mr. alex
financial manager: mr. alex's mother
marketing manager: mr. alex
health and safety manager: mr. alex
human resources manager: mr. alex
education and training liason: mr. alex
chief programmer: mr. alex
general programming staff list: mr. alex, mr. alex, mr. alex
general secretary: mr. alex
receprionist: mr. alex
janitor: mr. alex
chief cook and bottle washer: mr. alex

i too hope mr. alex stays with the mainstream firefox code. australis was a pain in the keester to work around, but the classic theme restorer and classic buttons 3rd party addons tame it down fairly well. my firefox looks & acts much the same as it did 5 years ago even with australis. i just wish they'd stop messing about so much tweaking it. i do NOT want firefox to turn into a chrome clone.

people should also stop pushing cyberfox and pale moon here. if you are now using them, fine. go post in their forum.
Edited by kronckew - 5/7/14 at 1:07am
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There is no such thing as Waterfox project managers.

Waterfox is a one man show built entirely by Alex in his spare time away from studying for a degree.

The fact that he manages this around his study is a credit to his commitment and stamina.

Future Direction:
I agree with comments above that Waterfox should remain a faithful 64-bit version of the current release of Firefox.

Given the direction other 64-bit variants seem to be going, that would also make it unique.
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Unique, not.... pcxfirefox is also a 1:1 x64 FF variant. And today version 29 (actually 29.0.1) made it to sourceforge.
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Personally I think everyone should use what ever Firefox variant they want.
No need to diss any of them. I prefer Waterfox since it's a great x64 clone of Firefox.
I really like the work Alex does and can't wait for the next version when ever Firefox release a new one..smile.gif

I still have a hard time understanding why Mozilla can't understand they are losing users just because they are to lazy to release an official x64 version of Firefox for Windows.
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Personally I think everyone should use what ever Firefox variant they want.
No need to diss any of them. I prefer Waterfox since it's a great x64 clone of Firefox.
I really like the work Alex does and can't wait for the next version when ever Firefox release a new one..smile.gif

I still have a hard time understanding why Mozilla can't understand they are losing users just because they are to lazy to release an official x64 version of Firefox for Windows.

Well, their latest reply on this is:
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Released versions of Firefox are already fully 64-bit on MacOS X and Linux. For 64-bit Firefox on Windows, we are in the process of setting up our automated testing for this platform to make sure that it gets the same daily testing coverage as all of our other platforms do. Windows 64-bit builds of Firefox are already available in our "Nightly" early tester channel, and we have many testers already using these builds without problems. Once we have continuous testing set up, we should have more news to share about timing for a full 64-bit Firefox release on Windows.
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