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I hear ya kronckew! I usually read the same kind of expectations of Alex as many would have for that corporation with many many developers and the rest, with ne'er a word of gratitude in lieu of I want more NOW! Those get to me...and I always try to slip a supportive message to St. Alex when I truly get miffed, but I have too been known to reach out in defense of as well...right or wrong. Hehe...we can hope to change in these later years...I don't expect I am much younger than your son. I know to use Sir/Ma'am and thank you as offspring from those in your generation when respect, kindness, and virtue were things important to know and exercise daily. Now many will flame for no reason, but to hurt others, miss thank you in those endless lines of requests for more, and don't consider others for what they have going on in lieu of working on freeware. Follow Alex by example I guess...try anyway...ok, maybe try to try...at the very least think about trying to try to change.

Payback is best enjoyed as a grandparent I have always thought. The world is a much different place that even still grandparents might find frustration in that view as well. Thanks for the reply!
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I'm sure it wasn't meant as a malicious comment, more as wondering.

I wonder at times if the school you attend isn't a seminary with some of the "requests" that are asked for or demanded even. That is much of the problem in forums, texts, and other written communication is ones own interpretation, There are many reasons and explanations reading posts can get confused or misinterpreted. A few of those major reasons being due to the speaking in languages not native to the writer, the readers own state of mind interpreting things differently than implied, and more times than not missing those queues one would get in speaking with someone that are not relayed in type as eloquently (through punctuation, explanation, description, etc..). Anywho...keep up the good work St. Alex...many are here and ready to test when needed.

 

Thanks for being willing to help test! The build should be ready tomorrow morning GMT assuming no issues crop up. So let's hope for the best.

 

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Oooh, a 64-bit Firefox... when I do my ritualistic Windows re-install, I may go this route instead of ye olde Firefox...

 

You should give it a try when you can!

 

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In my opinion, new memory allocator take more cpu and memory than it's predecessor (noticeable with my session with hundreds of tabs which started at 2Go with WF 34, now 3.4Go).

In fact, at start, new memory allocator climb to 12Go then it goes back dox, to 3.4.

Firefox 35.0.1 came out, will we have a new version of Waterfox

I discovered that my problem with memory at start is cause by Youtube Center addon surely in relation with new firefox 35 code.

 

Ah right I see, good to see you've found the culprit for that issue.

    
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The fact that extensions keep causing problems unfairly blamed on Waterfox is why I feel it's even more important to do routine testing of new WF builds on clean Virtual Machines.
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Okay everyone, here's 36.0 test build: https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/waterfox-download/test-builds/Waterfox20150224220919.7z

 

Does WebGL work for everyone?

 

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The fact that extensions keep causing problems unfairly blamed on Waterfox is why I feel it's even more important to do routine testing of new WF builds on clean Virtual Machines.

 

I do that now which is why I struggle sometimes to recreate certain issues.

    
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Does WebGL work for everyone?

Just tried WebGL under 35.0.1 on this page and it worked fine for me. Vroom vroom!
Now, under 36.0, it bloats like a beached whale on a summer day when using WebGL.

TaskManager reports Waterfox 36.0's size went from 288mb to 3.2gb in the span of one minute, and the demo skipped around.
Happily when that tab was closed, leaving only this page here, it dropped back to 293mb.

(Edit to add: Upon updating my Firefox from 34 to 36 and trying that WebGL, and getting the same bloating and lack of useful function, I guess that this issue has nothing to do with WF... looks like Mozilla frigged up the WebGL implementation. Is that why you asked, Alex? mad.gif )

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36.0 questions offhand without putting it through the stress tests yet...

Issue 1: Why is clearkey.dll included in this 7zip batch since it's not part of Waterfox?
(Avast reports it as a trojan, but I know it's a permission key for certain software to run.)

Issue 2: Huh? (This is a wired connection on a home computer.)

(Edit to add: I got the same message after updating Firefox to 36 so it's also not WF's fault.)
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Does WebGL work for everyone?

Just tried WebGL under 35.0.1 on this page and it worked fine for me. Vroom vroom!
Now, under 36.0, it bloats like a beached whale on a summer day when using WebGL.

TaskManager reports Waterfox 36.0's size went from 288mb to 3.2gb in the span of one minute, and the demo skipped around.
Happily when that tab was closed, leaving only this page here, it dropped back to 293mb.

(Edit to add: Upon updating my Firefox from 34 to 36 and trying that WebGL, and getting the same bloating and lack of useful function, I guess that this issue has nothing to do with WF... looks like Mozilla frigged up the WebGL implementation. Is that why you asked, Alex? mad.gif )

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36.0 questions offhand without putting it through the stress tests yet...

Issue 1: Why is clearkey.dll included in this 7zip batch since it's not part of Waterfox?
(Avast reports it as a trojan, but I know it's a permission key for certain software to run.)

Issue 2: Huh? (This is a wired connection on a home computer.)

(Edit to add: I got the same message after updating Firefox to 36 so it's also not WF's fault.)

 

Oh dear..yes Mozilla updated ANGLE in the codebase, so I was wondering what effect it had. Does this happen on a clean profile as well? Might be a profile issue (optimistic thinking here).

 

Clearkey is used for Mochitests. No idea why it was bundled as well! Yeah that happens a lot, unless I sign the files I always get some sort of false positive come up. Usually because the directory structure and file names are exactly the same as Firefox so they think it's a malicious program trying to mimic it.

 

No idea about the network one, that's a Windows feature. It COULD be because HTTP/2 has been implemented in 36.0?

    
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In view of http://helloracer.com/webgl WF36 dies many deaths. It's stuttering in the demo and the ram is blowing up until 7gb (8gb are in the machine).
In WF 35 (no 35.01) all is running well. The ram usage ist going up to 5xx -6xx MB. In both versions hardware accleration is enabled.

In regular surfing through the web there's no different between 35 and 36.
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waterfox 36 crash https://www.khronos.org/registry/webgl/sdk/tests/webgl-conformance-tests.html
http://helloracer.com/webgl waterfox mega memory leak much outbounds

waterfox 36 17gb 40 second driving shutter bad
cyberfox 36 not past 551,429k smooth

release broken very leaking memory
one fix i tell you many post back https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2015-18/
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OK..first off...I was unable to run WebGL without first going into "about:config" and enabling "webgl.force-enabled". Rebooted and webgl was running fine. I ran the HelloRacer game, nice looking...car took off to oblivion, and I didn't notice a huge explosion in memory...it was 445mb before and though it did jump to 1.2GB...I never saw numbers like 4.2GB and I have 16GB of memory. I figured I would test fate and also opened another tab to run the WebGL test link MalcolmX posted. With both running it never got above 1.3GB and never crashed with Overclock Forum in a tab, Hello Racer in one, and the test in another which I ran over and over. No crashes...no memory use above 1.3GB max...steady at 1.2GB...closed tabs and it returned to 400MB range. I will try a clean profile as well and report back later with that test info.

New Profile...yeah...new profile didn't fair well. New profile handled those previous links fine and again memory never got above 1.2GB and never crashed. I thought WebGL looked cool and wanted to see more and went here,http://davidwalsh.name/webgl-demo, and even though the memory never spiked - Waterfox did in fact crash, just totally locked up each time. I ran this site in my previous profile and same thing...no memory spike,but a crash. So, I am lost...I still managed to go to the previous set of links I tried first and still no issues...the link I found crashed still with no huge spike in memory. Kind of makes me wonder if there isn't a problem in some WebGL code or if in fact it is a graphic driver issue. I don't claim to be an expert on WebGL, but those are my results.
Edited by seti - 2/25/15 at 8:44am
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Good that I'm not the only one who saw the WebGL change in 36.0 bloat and shutter anything using it. blinksmiley.gif

I wanted to ask y'all if this is something easily fixed by dropping in a DLL from a previous version or if it's integrated deeply into the coding thus requires an inevitably-coming 36.x.x update to regain functionality.

Odd that they'd let it out of the can with such a huge snafu intact.
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