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i like waterfox a lot so far, just tried it for first time, kind of a slow startup, but i think its because one of my addons, not sure which one (noscript,adblock,ghostery) if anyone knows which one causes the stutter at startup let me know and i will get rid of it
    
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So in the pursuit of tracking down the WebGL leak...

My Acer notebook: well, it turns out it doesn't have a good enough video card to run WebGL (so the sites tell me when I try) so nevermind that comparison. biggrin.gif

This same desktop machine I've been using, but under OpenSUSE 13.1 (I know, I haven't updated): Firefox 30.0 had no issues with the Cubemap and OpenRacer demos, updated to 36.0, still not having any issues with those two demos. I know Linux isn't the same bag as Windows, but this at least implies it's not my hardware and it's possibly not WebGL 2.0 itself since those would be the common threads.

While I was checking for the update for FF for OpenSUSE I noticed that FF for Windows has reached 36.0.1 so once back in Win7 I updated, then tried the Cubemap and OpenRacer demos...

FireFox 36.0.1's WebGL has NO LEAK. Task Manager says it occupies under 300mb when running those demos. Just in case some common element was 'fixed' in the FF updating, back to WF and... ugh, no, WF hit 2gb after a minute.

So it looks like something in the 36.0.1 code base resolved the WebGL issue, even if you haven't been able to identify what that thing is, so responding to something you'd said to me a day or two ago... Yes, looking forward to the next WF update based on the latest FF build. smile.gif
Edited by themushroom - 3/6/15 at 11:13am
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Is this for YouTube or any HTML5 video? If it's for any HTML5 video separate from YouTube, you can go to about:config and change media.mediasource.youtubeonly to true.
I enabled media streaming extensions for everything, because Mozilla only got it fully working for YouTube, but on most systems most of the time it works well.

YouTube, so far as I've tried, and it doesn't matter what I set "media.mediasource.youtubeonly" too.

When I look at https://www.youtube.com/html5 it shows that h.264 is not supported.

 

Oh that's odd. Are the following values true?

 

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media.mediasource.mp4.enabled
media.fragmented-mp4.enabled

 

 

 

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Hi Mr. Alex,

I waited and I was able to install the update.

However, on my Dell Laptop, with Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Service Pack 1 full patched, I can't upgrade going through the program.

I get errors that FireFox is currently running and that I should close it.

2015-03-03-UnabletoUpgradeWaterFoxthroughUpdater.jpg 249k .jpg file

Also I manually upgraded to WaterFox 36.0 and WaterFox 36.0 in now in a circle. When I open WaterFox, it detects an Update is ready to be applied and when I attempt to apply the Update, Updater shows another instance of FireFox is running.

How do I permanently fix this issue? Thank you!

2015-03-03-RestartWaterfoxtoUpdate.jpg 366k .jpg file

 

Unfortunately the already running process error happens every now and then with Waterfox/Firefox. There are some threads here and here that might help with this? There are so many different system configs and variables it's hard to know what might be causing the issue so we can work through it to find it.

 

As for the second issue, if you go to about:config is there an entry called app.update.url.override? If there is just right click on it and select reset.

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i like waterfox a lot so far, just tried it for first time, kind of a slow startup, but i think its because one of my addons, not sure which one (noscript,adblock,ghostery) if anyone knows which one causes the stutter at startup let me know and i will get rid of it

 

Hmm well the easiest way is to disable them all then put them on one by one and see which one affects performance.

 

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So in the pursuit of tracking down the WebGL leak...

My Acer notebook: well, it turns out it doesn't have a good enough video card to run WebGL (so the sites tell me when I try) so nevermind that comparison. biggrin.gif

This same desktop machine I've been using, but under OpenSUSE 13.1 (I know, I haven't updated): Firefox 30.0 had no issues with the Cubemap and OpenRacer demos, updated to 36.0, still not having any issues with those two demos. I know Linux isn't the same bag as Windows, but this at least implies it's not my hardware and it's possibly not WebGL 2.0 itself since those would be the common threads.

While I was checking for the update for FF for OpenSUSE I noticed that FF for Windows has reached 36.0.1 so once back in Win7 I updated, then tried the Cubemap and OpenRacer demos...

FireFox 36.0.1's WebGL has NO LEAK. Task Manager says it occupies under 300mb when running those demos. Just in case some common element was 'fixed' in the FF updating, back to WF and... ugh, no, WF hit 2gb after a minute.

So it looks like something in the 36.0.1 code base resolved the WebGL issue, even if you haven't been able to identify what that thing is, so responding to something you'd said to me a day or two ago... Yes, looking forward to the next WF update based on the latest FF build. smile.gif

 

Yep looks like it was a bug in Firefox. Will release update tomorrow hopefully :) Hopefully that'll sort this problem out!


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36.0, for me, doesn't fix the memory leak. Opening around 10 tweaktown tabs easily makes the RAM usage of waterfox.exe skyrocket to 4+GB and it makes the browser TOTALLY unresponsive in which case I have to end the process in task manager and re-open the program to use it again normally. Have you replicated this issue by going to www.tweaktown.com and opening several articles from there like I've suggested a few weeks back?
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36.0, for me, doesn't fix the memory leak. Opening around 10 tweaktown tabs easily makes the RAM usage of waterfox.exe skyrocket to 4+GB and it makes the browser TOTALLY unresponsive in which case I have to end the process in task manager and re-open the program to use it again normally. Have you replicated this issue by going to www.tweaktown.com and opening several articles from there like I've suggested a few weeks back?

 

Yes I have but I can't reproduce it unfortunately :(

 

I've tried on the following systems:

 

  • Intel Core i5 3470 with iGPU
  • AMD 8350 with an NVIDIA GPU (can't remember model, friends computer)
  • The MacBook Air in my signature

 

Neither of them would do anything like that on tweaktown. Even tried running 3 benchmarks while having tweaktown as the main open town and memory usage wouldn't inflate.

    
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Yes I have but I can't reproduce it unfortunately frown.gif

I've tried on the following systems:
  • Intel Core i5 3470 with iGPU
  • AMD 8350 with an NVIDIA GPU (can't remember model, friends computer)
  • The MacBook Air in my signature

Neither of them would do anything like that on tweaktown. Even tried running 3 benchmarks while having tweaktown as the main open town and memory usage wouldn't inflate.

Have you tried multiple tabs with different tweaktown articles?
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Can't seem to repro any leaks, and v36 seems to be snappier. Which is good, I felt like v35 was a complete dog.
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Unfortunately the already running process error happens every now and then with Waterfox/Firefox. There are some threads here and here that might help with this? There are so many different system configs and variables it's hard to know what might be causing the issue so we can work through it to find it.

As for the second issue, if you go to about:config is there an entry called app.update.url.override? If there is just right click on it and select reset.

Hi Mr. Alex,

I did not understand : about:config when I first read it, so this is what I did.

1. Used Program and Features and removed FireFox 36.0.1, Mozilla Maintenance Service and Waterfox 36.0.
2. Used Windows Explorer and removed all Folders of Mozilla, and checked for FireFox and Waterfox.
3. Ran Disk Cleanup.
4. Found Mozilla Maintenance Service in Services so I used Regedit and removed all logical references to FireFox and WaterFox.
5. Checked Services and since there but with an error message, so I rebooted the computer.
6. On Reboot, gone.
7. Reinstalled WaterFox Version 34.0.1 and it still showed Restart to Apply Update and it still showed another instance of Firefox running, where Firefox is not installed.

8. Just now, understood : about:config. Simply typed it in the Address Bar, but I did not see or find any entry called: "app.update.url.override". I do see "app.update.url"

Composed in Waterfox, but had to switch to Internet Explorer to finish, in order to use attachments here. Times out in Waterfox.

2015-03-07-Firefoxwasuninstalled.jpg 459k .jpg file
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Here's the 36.0.1 build that should be available tomorrow: download.

  • Every fix in 36.0.1
  • Added back support for Vista
  • Fixed geolocation issues - it should now work!

 

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Yes I have but I can't reproduce it unfortunately frown.gif

I've tried on the following systems:
  • Intel Core i5 3470 with iGPU
  • AMD 8350 with an NVIDIA GPU (can't remember model, friends computer)
  • The MacBook Air in my signature

Neither of them would do anything like that on tweaktown. Even tried running 3 benchmarks while having tweaktown as the main open town and memory usage wouldn't inflate.

Have you tried multiple tabs with different tweaktown articles?

 

Yes tried that as well. In 36.0.1 Mozilla patched a memory leak in relation to Canvas rendering. Don't suppose it makes a difference for you?

 

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Can't seem to repro any leaks, and v36 seems to be snappier. Which is good, I felt like v35 was a complete dog.

 

Yes 35.0 had some issues that where driving me crazy that I managed to resolve in 36.0.

 

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Unfortunately the already running process error happens every now and then with Waterfox/Firefox. There are some threads here and here that might help with this? There are so many different system configs and variables it's hard to know what might be causing the issue so we can work through it to find it.

As for the second issue, if you go to about:config is there an entry called app.update.url.override? If there is just right click on it and select reset.

Hi Mr. Alex,

I did not understand : about:config when I first read it, so this is what I did.

1. Used Program and Features and removed FireFox 36.0.1, Mozilla Maintenance Service and Waterfox 36.0.
2. Used Windows Explorer and removed all Folders of Mozilla, and checked for FireFox and Waterfox.
3. Ran Disk Cleanup.
4. Found Mozilla Maintenance Service in Services so I used Regedit and removed all logical references to FireFox and WaterFox.
5. Checked Services and since there but with an error message, so I rebooted the computer.
6. On Reboot, gone.
7. Reinstalled WaterFox Version 34.0.1 and it still showed Restart to Apply Update and it still showed another instance of Firefox running, where Firefox is not installed.

8. Just now, understood : about:config. Simply typed it in the Address Bar, but I did not see or find any entry called: "app.update.url.override". I do see "app.update.url"

Composed in Waterfox, but had to switch to Internet Explorer to finish, in order to use attachments here. Times out in Waterfox.

2015-03-07-Firefoxwasuninstalled.jpg 459k .jpg file

 

I see! It looks like there might be an issue with your profile. If you follow this guide to find out your profile location, could you take a screenshot of what's inside the default profile directory?

    
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Yes tried that as well. In 36.0.1 Mozilla patched a memory leak in relation to Canvas rendering. Don't suppose it makes a difference for you?

I'm not sure either but I'll give it a try. When you tried reproducing my problem, do you have other tabs opened? I have around 50 tabs opened (but not loaded) that are not Tweaktown-related and that's the time I try to reproduce the issue which can be reproduced every single time frown.gif
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