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Downloaded this last night and so far it's worked well for everything. Appears considerably faster compared to chrome with the sites that I browse.
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Could anyone else please try streaming 4k content on Youtube and tell me and Mirkoj if you're having any issues getting it to play smoothly? I know it's not my provider nor my hardware, just trying to get to the bottom of this.
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As mentioned, 4k doesn't work fine at all. It freezes non stop, no smooth play what so ever.
On the other hand on Edge (win10) it is perfectly smooth.
Got an 5960x, 32fb ram, 4xTitan X and 200 Mbps download speed so definitely not an hardware or network issue.
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Originally Posted by GrumpyOne View Post

Could anyone else please try streaming 4k content on Youtube and tell me and Mirkoj if you're having any issues getting it to play smoothly? I know it's not my provider nor my hardware, just trying to get to the bottom of this.

Okay, I played this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vrdgDdPApQ
and it does sputter and buffer a LOT with Waterfox. Same system, the video plays fine with SeaMonkey or IE11.

When I drop the resolution from 2160 to 1440, the sputtering stops, but the video still buffers and pauses a lot with Waterfox.

From what I see, it looks like Waterfox is having issues with prefetching the buffered data. One big thing I noticed was at 2160, Waterfox did not have as much of the video buffered as the other two browsers did. At 2160, Waterfox was just barely buffering data ahead of the video, where SeaMonkey and IE both showed much larger amounts of prefetched video in the progress bar.

Hope this helps point to a cause.

Chas
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The new icon reminds me of IE and Edge. It's so ugly.
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For some reason when I start a download and chose a save location, if I just save there all is fine but if I chose to create a new directory WF crashes on me..
This happens every time on 2 different machines with Win 10 x64 Enterprise and 1 machine with Win 8 x64 Enterprise.
It didn't happen on the previous release of WF.. I can't really swear that it is only WF since I might have installed something else without remembering but thought I'd post it here to see if anyone else have the same problem..smile.gif
Other than that I really love the 40.0.2 release..smile.gif
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I've made sure to not use any flags that put AMD users at a disadvantage :-) in fact AMD users should benefit from all the flags I've used.

If you think it's worth it, I could run a Phenom II X4 945 head to head with a Core 2 Quad Q6700 and see if WF behaves noticeably differently on them. Be a bit of a weekend project though tongue.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by Quantum Reality View Post

Based on Wikipedia's entry on browser benchmarking, I decided on the following tests:
  1. Futuremark Peacekeeper
  2. Octane 2.0
  3. Speedbattle
  4. Wirple

First test system using Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit with updates slipstreamed in. I didn't tweak very much, and only installed Waterfox 40.0.2 on it. I set the browser to auto-clear cache, cookies, etc on exit so there wouldn't be any "browser cruft" slipping in when I would rerun the browser on each test.
  • Phenom II X4 945 at stock 3.0 GHz speed
  • 4 gigs DDR2-800
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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64-bit (Service Pack 1)
DirectX version: 11.0
GPU processor: GeForce 9800 GT
Driver version: 341.81
Direct3D API version: 10
CUDA Cores: 112
Core clock: 600 MHz
Shader clock: 1500 MHz
Memory data rate: 1800 MHz
Memory interface: 256-bit
Total available graphics memory: 2303 MB
Dedicated video memory: 512 MB GDDR3
System video memory: 0 MB
Shared system memory: 1791 MB
Video BIOS version: 62.92.69.00.30

What I found was that the nVidia-supplied video driver is absolutely needed to run WebGL (Windows 7's built-in WDDM driver is insufficient), and it does improve HTML5 benchmark results.

Image-heavy segment follows - first batch is with the Windows 7 WDDM driver as of 2009:




Second batch is with the most recent released Geforce driver 341.81:




Next set of test results will be with a Core 2 Quad Q6700 after I transplant the GPU into it and get 4 gigs into that as well.

 

Thanks! Nice to have some AMD benchmarks as I haven't ever had a system to test it on before.

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Originally Posted by mirkoj View Post

anyone else having issues with playing 4k video on youtube with waterfox? all versions including last one 40?
when I open 4k video on edge for example, win10 it plays smooth.
but within waterfox is chopy and freezing all the time.
any idea?

 

Hmm I'll test 4K content on tuesday when I get access to my Windows PC again. My laptop is currently out of service and I'm lazy to install Windows on it haha.

 

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Originally Posted by Redzo View Post

Waterfox is horribly slow for me on Facebook. i basically have to use Chromium for Facebook and WF for everything else.

 

Hmm that's not good. Are you using any add-ons that could potentially be causing the issue?

 

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Originally Posted by thechas View Post

Thank you MrAlex. Waterfox 40.0.2 is working well on the 2 computers I have installed it on.
One was from the downloaded installer and the other I ran the update.
No issues so far.

Chas

 

Ah awesome, glad it's all working fine!

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOne View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirkoj View Post

anyone else having issues with playing 4k video on youtube with waterfox? all versions including last one 40?
when I open 4k video on edge for example, win10 it plays smooth.
but within waterfox is chopy and freezing all the time.
any idea?
Glad I'm not the only one, I've mentioned it before, it really ticks me off since I have to switch to Chrome which I hate using.

 

I'll try see what's causing it.

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Originally Posted by agawthrop View Post

Downloaded this last night and so far it's worked well for everything. Appears considerably faster compared to chrome with the sites that I browse.

Great, glad it works well!

 

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOne View Post

Could anyone else please try streaming 4k content on Youtube and tell me and Mirkoj if you're having any issues getting it to play smoothly? I know it's not my provider nor my hardware, just trying to get to the bottom of this.

 

 

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Originally Posted by mirkoj View Post

As mentioned, 4k doesn't work fine at all. It freezes non stop, no smooth play what so ever.
On the other hand on Edge (win10) it is perfectly smooth.
Got an 5960x, 32fb ram, 4xTitan X and 200 Mbps download speed so definitely not an hardware or network issue.

 

 

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Originally Posted by thechas View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrumpyOne View Post

Could anyone else please try streaming 4k content on Youtube and tell me and Mirkoj if you're having any issues getting it to play smoothly? I know it's not my provider nor my hardware, just trying to get to the bottom of this.

Okay, I played this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vrdgDdPApQ
and it does sputter and buffer a LOT with Waterfox. Same system, the video plays fine with SeaMonkey or IE11.

When I drop the resolution from 2160 to 1440, the sputtering stops, but the video still buffers and pauses a lot with Waterfox.

From what I see, it looks like Waterfox is having issues with prefetching the buffered data. One big thing I noticed was at 2160, Waterfox did not have as much of the video buffered as the other two browsers did. At 2160, Waterfox was just barely buffering data ahead of the video, where SeaMonkey and IE both showed much larger amounts of prefetched video in the progress bar.

Hope this helps point to a cause.

Chas

 

By the way, have you guys tried disabling hardware acceleration? Any difference? There's a bug here which might fix the issue.

 

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Originally Posted by xxpenguinxx View Post

The new icon reminds me of IE and Edge. It's so ugly.

 

Ah shame you don't like it! I wanted something new as the old logo looked really out dated.

 

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Originally Posted by Screemer View Post

For some reason when I start a download and chose a save location, if I just save there all is fine but if I chose to create a new directory WF crashes on me..
This happens every time on 2 different machines with Win 10 x64 Enterprise and 1 machine with Win 8 x64 Enterprise.
It didn't happen on the previous release of WF.. I can't really swear that it is only WF since I might have installed something else without remembering but thought I'd post it here to see if anyone else have the same problem..smile.gif
Other than that I really love the 40.0.2 release..smile.gif

 

Ooh, strange issue! So to reproduce this, I just have to create a new directory with the file dialog open in Waterfox?

    
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Ah shame you don't like it! I wanted something new as the old logo looked really out dated.
I like the new icon, however wouldn't it be possible to have both? Allowing ppl to chose in installation.

Ooh, strange issue! So to reproduce this, I just have to create a new directory with the file dialog open in Waterfox?
Yepp, all I do is click a download link and in the file dialog I either right click and chose new folder or click on the new folder button. Crashes every time.
Found out what was causing it.. Not WF at all. I had tested to install CFI Shelltoys v.7.5 and that made explorer to crash when creating folders in download dialog.. After all it's an old Win XP software.. Sorry about me shouting MrAlex... smile.gif
Edited by Screemer - 8/30/15 at 2:53pm
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i like the new watery foxie!

 

 

you should update the 'old' logo in post  no. 1 with it.


Edited by kronckew - 8/31/15 at 12:45am
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You could always embed both icons in the exe so people who want the old one can change it back?
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