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This makes a lot more sense. x64 in the file name.

But why is there no link to this from Adobe website.

Also I uninstalled flash and ran this installer, now I have 2 plug-ins for flash a 11.5v and 11.6v. I'm guessing this is because the 64-bit installer gives you both versions.
If so, how can I tell which is which so I can disable the 32-bit one.

Honestly all this effort put into this plug-in is quite frustrating. Why not just have a single 32-bit installer and another single 64-bit installer like Java?

This is the explanation: when you download Flash from adobe.com it downloads a 32-bit DOWNLOADER. That downloader will then be the one determining if you have a need for 64-bit and 32-bit plugins. If you are running an x64 OS, then it will automatically install both. You get it now?
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This makes a lot more sense. x64 in the file name.

But why is there no link to this from Adobe website.

Also I uninstalled flash and ran this installer, now I have 2 plug-ins for flash a 11.5v and 11.6v. I'm guessing this is because the 64-bit installer gives you both versions.
If so, how can I tell which is which so I can disable the 32-bit one.

Honestly all this effort put into this plug-in is quite frustrating. Why not just have a single 32-bit installer and another single 64-bit installer like Java?

This is the explanation: when you download Flash from adobe.com it downloads a 32-bit DOWNLOADER. That downloader will then be the one determining if you have a need for 64-bit and 32-bit plugins. If you are running an x64 OS, then it will automatically install both. You get it now?

No I don't understand stupid Adobe.

A "downloader" does not need to be marked 32bit or 64bit since it isn't actually a program.

They should remove x32 from the name of the "downloader" and then make it clear that this "downloader" will install 32 or 64 depending on what you need.

There is almost no documentation on this and with the x32 in the file name and no other mention of a bit type, then I assume that 32bit is installed since 32bit is usually default and it can be used on 64bit browsers also.
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 2/27/13 at 6:58pm
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No I don't understand stupid Adobe.

A "downloader" does not need to be marked 32bit or 64bit since it isn't actually a program.

They should remove x32 from the name of the "downloader" and then make it clear that this "downloader" will install 32 or 64 depending on what you need.

There is almost no documentation on this and with the x32 in the file name and no other mention of a bit type, then I assume that 32bit is installed since 32bit is usually default and it can be used on 64bit browsers also.

Yes but the thing is with that online install from Adobe, you get both x32 flash and x64 flash already, so what's the problem?
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Just informing if the tweet about waterfox 19 coming out soon is true that firefox 19.0.1 appeared on mozilla ftp about a couple of hours ago (was at a party)

changelog for 19.0.1
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/19.0.1/releasenotes/
Edited by tek2005 - 2/27/13 at 7:51pm
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I've yet to to test without any addons but has anyone noticed that when leaving Waterfox on for extended periods of time it becomes fairly unresponsive? Any interactions usually leads to CPU usage spiking. I've already uninstalled and re-installed and the next thing to try is disabling addons but perhaps someone has already noticed something. Should I also try a completely new profile?

I have All-In-One Sidebar, Download Statusbar, NoScript, Status-4-Evar, Tab Mix Plus, etc. Tab Mix Plus is set to display 3 rows of tabs and usually scrolling up and down is smooth since I have more than 3 rows of tabs. However, Waterfox just becomes unresponsive until I restart it then it's fine for the time being.
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I've had no such problems.. And I have about 50 addons.smile.gif
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I believe in my case, it's more about the number of tabs and the number of rows of tabs. I've browsed Tab Mix Plus's forum and didn't find anyone with a similar issue. The closest is the CPU spike mentioned a couple of pages back in this thread. However, this is all speculations.


EDIT: I've used the same profile but I used Firefox instead. The problem still persists but it's not as bad as Waterfox. Seems like an addon issue?
Edited by nevets1219 - 2/28/13 at 10:41pm
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This is the explanation: when you download Flash from adobe.com it downloads a 32-bit DOWNLOADER. That downloader will then be the one determining if you have a need for 64-bit and 32-bit plugins. If you are running an x64 OS, then it will automatically install both. You get it now?
That is correct.

But better than using the download manager, download the full (offline) installers:
for IE: download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/support/install_flash_player_ax.exe
for Firefox/Waterfox: download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/support/install_flash_player.exe
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That is correct.

But better than using the download manager, download the full (offline) installers:
for IE: download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/support/install_flash_player_ax.exe
for Firefox/Waterfox: download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/support/install_flash_player.exe

Do those contain both x64 and x32 plugin versions for each browser?
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But better than using the download manager, download the full (offline) installers:
for IE: download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/support

... but before using Flash for IE 9 and below better use IE 10, it just appeared for Win7 and like Chrome has internal flash support, so it updates with the browser. That's because in 99% of cases you really don't need IE, but there's 1% of websites (esp. internal/corporate) that are still "optimized" for IE :-\
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Do those contain both x64 and x32 plugin versions for each browser?

Yes, I've been using these for a long time since I'm very wary of downloaders posing as installers... btw the offline versions also contain a version check and refuse to install if they think they're outdated.

Edit: I just checked again since I didn't have the latest Flash installed (I use noscript & flashblock, so less area for flash attacks): the offline installer puts NPSWF64_11_6_602_171.dll into \Windows\System32\Macromed\Flash next to the 32-bit version NPSWF32_11_6_602_171.dll in \Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash
Edited by Marsu24 - 3/1/13 at 12:28am
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