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Thanks! Now "You have version 13,0,0,182 installed".
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Originally Posted by craigarno View Post

I'm wondering if Waterfox 28.0 has a memory leak?
...
I'm stumped.

I was going to suggest using about:memory, doing a measure and then doing one again later in the day to see where it was all going... however when I tried it myself just now in Waterfox 28.0 the application crashed. Does the same happen to you?

ETA: Tried again and it worked, so it may help your diagnosis.
Edited by Annihilannic - 4/18/14 at 4:41am
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... however when I tried it myself just now in Waterfox 28.0 the application crashed. Does the same happen to you?

Yes, when this condition occurs, Waterfox usually goes "poof" shortly after, sometimes before I'd have a chance to see what about:memory tells me. I've been watching Taskmgr.exe for overall memory information. It takes about a half day for this to occur, so I haven't found a way to repeat this behavior yet. The application (genealogy program) I'm using this week opens and closes many tabs during normal edit operations. I'm still trying to figure out how to get more information about this behavior. Maybe doing regular surveys of about:memory, like once an hour will let me see any memory buildup trends prior to disaster. Fortunately Waterfox/Firefox recover well after this kind of event. So I only lose a small amount of editing time along with the distraction of having to setup again to pickup where I left off.
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Originally Posted by craigarno View Post

I'm wondering if Waterfox 28.0 has a memory leak?

I run Waterfox 28.0 on my Vista x64 laptop. It had 3GB of RAM, but kept running out of memory. So I recently bought more memory to max it out at 4GB. I can use Waterfox for about 1/2 day with 10-15 tabs open while I bounce around to different parts of a database, Facebook, and a few reference sites. I'll get a "low memory" message from the OS suggesting to close Waterfox. If I ignore the message than Waterfox pretty quickly goes "poof" and disappears. Then I usually notice about 2-2.5GB free up.

I like Waterfox, it's really fast. I'm wondering why 10-15 tabs of fairly static data, some pictures and a lot of "work" type activity can make it use up 2.5GB of RAM. Once it's restarted with the same pages loaded my system reports 1.5 GB Free.

I'm stumped.

I've been noticing Pale Moon chomping through more memory lately with version 24.4.2, and with that some sluggishness in registering keyboard presses and mouse clicks when memory usage goes over ~500 meg. Could be some code revision that hasn't been fixed up yet.
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I've been noticing Pale Moon chomping through more memory lately with version 24.4.2, and with that some sluggishness in registering keyboard presses and mouse clicks when memory usage goes over ~500 meg. Could be some code revision that hasn't been fixed up yet.

I'm considering this possibility as well. I run Firefox 28.0 x64 on my Linux work station and see a similar creeping memory usage issue. It isn't as obvious in this 16GB system as it is in my 4GB laptop. Eliminating possibilities, Windows/Linux, Firefox/Waterfox/Pale Moon, and it appears the common thread is Firefox code. Of course this has yet to be proved with evidence/data.
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One other thing that's a recurring issue mentioned on the PM forums is that 64-bit video drivers + native in-browser hardware acceleration can account for high memory usage. One workaround is to disable that, as mentioned on the Mozilla Support site:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/977581
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I was going to suggest using about:memory

Waterfox 28.0, I'm looking at about:memory and don't complete the memory information. At the top of the listing I see,
"WARNING: the 'heap-allocated' memory reporter does not work for this platform and/or configuration. This means that 'heap-unclassified' is not shown and the 'explicit' tree shows less memory than it should."
and when I go the the bottom of the listing, I see "8,378,049.27 MB ── vsize-max-contiguous" This is on a machine with 4GB RAM and 256GB SSD. This number is slightly less disk space than I have in my server, though I don't think the two numbers are related.

I'm noticing this memory consumption behavior in both Firefox and Thunderbird products. So I submitted Bug reports:

998755 Thunderbird Untriaged nobody@mozilla.org UNCO --- Thunderbird is using too much memory after a few days work with lots of messages and mailboxes
998753 Firefox Untriaged nobody@mozilla.org UNCO --- Feature Request: Firefox uses too much memory, flush page caches as needed

If you are experiencing similar problems, I suggest you "Vote" for them using the "Vote" capability in the Bug Report Header (I always have to hunt for it). Voting counts, messaging just spams the email list.

Basically for what I'm doing, Firefox/Waterfox is using 3+GB of RAM and Thunderbird 5+GB. I can't have these two applications consuming 8+ GB of resources for "normal" operation in any of my machines from my lowly laptop with 256GB SSD and 4GB RAM to my workstation with 16GB RAM and scads of disk space.

I hate to bomb and run, but I have to get ready to catch a plane tomorrow. I'll be back at the end of the week, and only able to respond in a limited sense in between.
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Hi all. Who knows how to move tab bar to bottom. Code in userchrome.css
#content > tabbox { -moz-box-direction: reverse; } not working, but other codes work.
Extended not to offer.
Use Waterfox 28.0, Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
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Has that tab box thing worked for you before? If so, then perhaps an interface change in the recent Mozilla code has caused it to no longer interpret that code segment as valid CSS. I Googled and found it goes back almost ten years.

EDIT: Also, keep in mind there are specific rules for what you MUST have in a userChrome.css as the first non-comment line:
Code:
/* This Source Code Form is subject to the terms of the Mozilla Public
 * License, v. 2.0. If a copy of the MPL was not distributed with this
 * file, You can obtain one at http://mozilla.org/MPL/2.0/. */

/*
 * Edit this file and copy it as userChrome.css into your
 * profile-directory/chrome/
 */

/*
 * This file can be used to customize the look of Mozilla's user interface
 * You should consider using !important on rules which you want to
 * override default settings.
 */

/*
 * Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct functioning
 */
@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"); /* set default namespace to XUL */

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Hi.
Early use Opera, decided to try waterfox, as x64.
First non-comment line of course there is. Other code working, and they, too, not one year. Search on many many more forums, and where the code works where there is no. Thought maybe someone was faced with the same problem and a have ready solution.
Well, not very desirable to use extensions.
Sorry for my english. Thanks for the reply.
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