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It depends on what provides a better experience. If it's HW off, then it won't make a difference to your experience with HW on. All it does is offload tasks from your CPU to your GPU (and any modern CPU will handle everything just fine). Also it looks like plugins are being phased out. Chrome has completely shut off NPAPI plugins now and they're only leaving the bare essentials till they're comfortable enough that it's no longer needed. Mozilla are also working on shumway, a way to natively render flash with HTML5 (like PDF.js for example) to get rid of the need of plugins.

Plugins were always a big security and performance issue so they'll be going the way of the dodo which is why not much work or focus is being put into fixing their issue anymore.
As for RAM usage, that comes with the territory on such a big 64-Bit program. (Memory pointers are now twice as big for example).

Thanks for the insight. Does that mean that 2GB RAM usage is just normal? I mean that has still to be a memory leak, isn't?
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It depends on what provides a better experience. If it's HW off, then it won't make a difference to your experience with HW on. All it does is offload tasks from your CPU to your GPU (and any modern CPU will handle everything just fine). Also it looks like plugins are being phased out. Chrome has completely shut off NPAPI plugins now and they're only leaving the bare essentials till they're comfortable enough that it's no longer needed. Mozilla are also working on shumway, a way to natively render flash with HTML5 (like PDF.js for example) to get rid of the need of plugins.

Plugins were always a big security and performance issue so they'll be going the way of the dodo which is why not much work or focus is being put into fixing their issue anymore.
As for RAM usage, that comes with the territory on such a big 64-Bit program. (Memory pointers are now twice as big for example).

Thanks for the insight. Does that mean that 2GB RAM usage is just normal? I mean that has still to be a memory leak, isn't?

 

Yes that's about right. Depends really, some websites will cause memory leaks that are image heavy. And it depends on the memory allocator. Switching to tcmalloc, it tries to be clever by predicting how you're going to use memory so if you use memory intensive websites a lot in one session it won't release the memory back to the system in an effort to improve performance. You can find an in-depth article about it here and of course the docs here if it interests you.

    
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Hmm. Does FF portable have its own profile or does it use the system profile? It could possibly be a profile issue (which would explain FF desktop not working well either). Have you tried creating a blank profile to see if that fixes anything?

I would assume it does, since when I went back to it, I had to update everything, including bookmarks and some Add-ons. It's not installed in the FF programs file, so you have to clean the history manually, whereas WF gets cleaned by CCleaner when I run it. I don't have FF desktop installed in the programs folder anymore, just WF, and CCleaner identifies it as FF.

I have tried running it in safe mode, which makes it a little faster, but haven't tried a blank profile. Since FF portable is working for me right now, I don't want to take the time to mess with WF. Once I get time, I may do a clean install and see if that fixes the problems, but I won't have time to do that for awhile, at least after the holidays.
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Yes that's about right. Depends really, some websites will cause memory leaks that are image heavy. And it depends on the memory allocator. Switching to tcmalloc, it tries to be clever by predicting how you're going to use memory so if you use memory intensive websites a lot in one session it won't release the memory back to the system in an effort to improve performance. You can find an in-depth article about it here and of course the docs here if it interests you.

What is the reason behind it not releasing the memory back to the system when I close the tab?
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Any chance you could have it so crash logs don't clear on restart? Would make finding out the issue a bit easier!
Did, and it provided no crash log. It acts like it didn't crash at all, contrary to what my eyes witness.
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Waterfox is corrupting my folder thumbnails when I browse folders inside the Save Image dialog to save images (in this case .jpg files from i.imgur.com) to image folders containing large amounts of subfolders and files (over 75000).

I do not know in the least what is causing this, but here are some key points which I think are recurring:
  • The thumbnails most often do not corrupt if they're already in cache after having been generated by Windows itself;
  • If no thumbnail exists for a subfolder, when you browse into its parent folder WF will generate the above corrupted thumbnail image;
  • The image it generates is the same for every folder it generates a thumbnail for;
  • When clearing the thumbnail cache, if generated by Windows the thumbnails are good, but if generated by WF they're always bad now.
  • It started happening after version 34 at the earliest, and I think even only after the update to 34.0.1.

Here's what it generates:



EDIT: I was doing some more image saves just now, and going into a folder I hadn't visited with WF's Save Image dialog yet until I regenerated the thumbnails via Windows first. killed random thumbnails which were already existing in cache.. They got replaced with similar pink-ish colored noise patterns, just like the above example but not quite the same. Once this happes the change is permanent until the cache is cleared, a PC restart obviously does not help.

I saved at least fifteen of these images before this happened, so it's not consistent! But doing many manipulations via Windows Explorer in the same folders did not affect anything and neither did any thumbnails corrupt when I was doing the same image browsing/saving via IE..
Edited by RevZ - 12/25/14 at 4:29pm
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And I have.
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Clear disk cache
Update Java
Tweak some network settings and cache settings.
Get CCleaner with the extra addons and clear out nearly all the firefox options (except passwords, session, site prefs, any others you want to keep).

Should run better with lots of addons after doing the above.
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Hi all, been having weird display corruption issues in Waterfox since updating to the new Cataylst Omega drivers when hardware acceleration is checked in the Waterfox options. I unchecked hardware acceleration to see if it is any better. Here is a screenshot



Any thoughts?

Rick

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Using Windows 8.1, R9 290 getting the same exact problem too for Firefox 34 official. HW turning off solve it of course, but I think it is enough of a problem to finally migrate to Chrome.

Edit: Wrong quote
Edited by Levisas - 12/29/14 at 2:34am
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Using Windows 8.1, R9 290 getting the same exact problem too for Firefox 34 official. HW turning off solve it of course, but I think it is enough of a problem to finally migrate to Chrome.

What do you mean "HW turning off"? Do you mean turning off HW acceleration?

The most important thing Chrome doesn't have is to display a fixed tab length when you're using hundreds of tabs. In Chrome, it will display all those tabs in one window length making all tabs minute and very hard to select.
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