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These are some of the edits I have picked up through the course of reading this forum and have just kept adding them to the list of things to do with new installs of FF/WF. I am wondering if many or any are still to be used for optimal performance? or do they cause more harm than good and should be discarded? Any help is appreciated. Here they are:


Set "browser.sessionstore.interval" to "300000"
Set "network.http.spdy.enabled" to "true"
Set “browser.sessionhistory.max_total_viewers” to "0"
Set "network.prefetch-next" to "false"
Set "layout.spellcheckDefault" to "2"
Set “network.http.pipelining” to “true”
Set “network.http.proxy.pipelining” to “true”
Set “network.http.pipelining.maxrequests” to "8"
Set "network.http.max-connections" to "256"
Set "network.http.max-connections-per-server" to "24"
Set "network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy" to "8"
Set "network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server" to "8"
Set "browser.cache.disk.preload_chunk_count" to "8"
Set "browser.cache.disk.metadata_memory_limit" to "1000"

Right-click anywhere and select New-> Integer or Bolean (T or F)

New->Integer “nglayout.initialpaint.delay”: set "25"
New->Bolean "network.dns.disableIPv6": set “false”
New->Integer “content.notify.backoffcount”: set “5“
New->Bolean “plugin.expose_full_path”: set “true”
New->Integer “ui.submenuDelay”: set “0"
New->Bolean “config.trim_on_minimize”: set "true"
New->Bolean "network.http.pipelining.firstrequest": set "true"
New->Bolean "content.notify.ontimer": set "True"
New->Integer "content.notify.interval": set "300000"
New->Integer "content.max.tokenizing.time": set "900000" (set to 3x whatever 'content.notify.interval is set to.) Was used to fix Adobe Flash lag during playback.

 

Now to test tweaks.

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Is there a way to easily mass-incorporate changes like that into Firefox or its variants?
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Is there reason waterfox takes alot longer than cyberfox to update? Its been how long and still no current version.

Cyberfox gets update the next day most of time and sometimes on day firefox updates.
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Because they are done by different developers, so different release times.
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mr alex is a student, not a corporation. only him. he also has a life beyond waterfox.

he's also fighting the new compiler and memory allocation to get rid of the memory leaks some users have.

he doesn't bring out a new version till he is happy with it, rather than because mozilla did, in spite of the wolves howling at his heels.

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Hmm you can troubleshoot this by running in safe mode or trying a blank profile.

Will that delete all my tabs then? After trying safe mode or a blank profile, what then?

 

Yes it will unfortunately. But after, you basically try to recreate the issue to see if it's an add-on issue or if something dodgy has happened in the profile. I'd recommend safe mode before a blank profile.

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Yes it's due to the new memory allocator. It's definitely leaky so I'm going to replace it.

You tracked down the real issue?
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Glad to know it helped a little. The information that the browser is showing is correct but I don't think it's the total system memory usage.

It doesn't solve the leak but I will admit that I think that at least one of the tricks (where the browser dumps some memory when minimised) is helping reduce its toll. Like right now Task Manager reports the size of WF is 1.9gb, which is down from 2.1 a little while ago, after using the browser for the last twelve hours. Whatever voodoo works, right?

 

Yes, Intel TBB has had some reported memory leaks that have been patched but because this memory allocator is meant for HPC I think it's overusing resources which is having diminishing returns. I'm thinking some JS heavy website are causing lots of memory usage.

 

As for the minimize_trim it's quite dubious if it actually works. It's a very old setting that probably isn't relevant any more.

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Hey Alex,

I just felt like posting my experiences with WF after reading lots of posts in regards to the memory usage.

http://i.imgur.com/AHcQhHC.png

There's dozens and dozens of posts in this thread complaining about WF having memory issues, but I'm thinking the problem lies elsewhere. That picture is 37 tabs open, many with animated gifs (which seem to still process when the tabs arent selected), I have a youtube video playing with flash player (plugin container not shown, 257mb), half of the sites listed have scripts running on them in real time.

I'm running just 2 plugins (flash and java), 10 addons including stylish and greasemonkey, and about 40 userscripts modifying just about everything I do. Several of those scripts run quite a bit of real time updates.

This is after around 45 hours of use, spread over several days as I sleep my PC. I'm running on 35.0.1 that was posted in the thread a few days back but I'm not sure what/if anything has changed since then.

My experience is that memory has largely been irrelevant, having only 8GB myself I haven't had much issue with the system/responsiveness or any lag/freezes or halts within WF.

One thing did make an amazing difference to the ram usage, swapping over from Adblock Plus to uBlock (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock).

Lots of the info on their github page shows significant gains in speed, overall performance and reduction in memory compared to all other adblocking solutions. Considering their data for how much extra memory ABP uses, and I'm going to take a wild swing and guess just about everyone here has an adblocker, I'd say maybe swap over to ublock for a bit and test memory.

That said, even comparing firefox release with WF, I can't say I see too much difference in memory. I make it a habit use the same profile where ever I go, clean it out with CCleaner + winapp2 regularly (not removing any cache), and every 6 months or so I rebuild the profile entirely from scratch.

If you want anymore info just ask. I appreciate all the hard work you've done and I'm desperate for a build of 36. FF35 fixed issues that have plagued me for a long time, but broke several features I use often, both of which are fixed for 36. I can't wait!

Thanks again Alex

 

I'm glad it's working well for you! Hopefully I'll be able to solve memory issues for everyone :)

 

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Is there a way to easily mass-incorporate changes like that into Firefox or its variants?

There is, you can create a .js file with all the setting that overwrite's whatever settings you put in it. I'll try find the link again.

 

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Is there reason waterfox takes alot longer than cyberfox to update? Its been how long and still no current version.

Cyberfox gets update the next day most of time and sometimes on day firefox updates.

 

There are a few reasons, although Kudos to whomever for getting their builds out so quickly.

  • Waterfox has a much larger user base, and I need to do lots of testing so I can make sure that if anything goes wrong it doesn't affect everyone.
  • I'm also in my final year of University so I've got to make sure I'm giving enough time to my course as well as Waterfox
  • I've got lots of issue with Intel's C++ compiler and newer Firefox builds working because they're removing support for MSVC10 and at the moment MSVC11 builds generate a UI that freezes (but it still works because you can type and click buttons etc, you just can't see the UI updating like it should). I've tried looking through cyber's source code but I don't see anything changed in regards to these issue, so how he gets ICC+MSVC11 to work atm is a mystery to me but I'm working on it.

Also 36.0 is due out tomorrow and I'm ontop of the build to get everything working ASAP. I do realise builds are slow, so sorry about that!

 

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mr alex is a student, not a corporation. only him. he also has a life beyond waterfox.

he's also fighting the new compiler and memory allocation to get rid of the memory leaks some users have.

he doesn't bring out a new version till he is happy with it, rather than because mozilla did, in spite of the wolves howling at his heels.

I'm sure it wasn't meant as a malicious comment, more as wondering.

    
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I'm sure it wasn't meant as a malicious comment, more as wondering.

I wonder at times if the school you attend isn't a seminary with some of the "requests" that are asked for or demanded even. That is much of the problem in forums, texts, and other written communication is ones own interpretation, There are many reasons and explanations reading posts can get confused or misinterpreted. A few of those major reasons being due to the speaking in languages not native to the writer, the readers own state of mind interpreting things differently than implied, and more times than not missing those queues one would get in speaking with someone that are not relayed in type as eloquently (through punctuation, explanation, description, etc..). Anywho...keep up the good work St. Alex...many are here and ready to test when needed.
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I'm sure it wasn't meant as a malicious comment, more as wondering.

I wonder at times if the school you attend isn't a seminary with some of the "requests" that are asked for or demanded even. That is much of the problem in forums, texts, and other written communication is ones own interpretation, There are many reasons and explanations reading posts can get confused or misinterpreted. A few of those major reasons being due to the speaking in languages not native to the writer, the readers own state of mind interpreting things differently than implied, and more times than not missing those queues one would get in speaking with someone that are not relayed in type as eloquently (through punctuation, explanation, description, etc..). Anywho...keep up the good work St. Alex...many are here and ready to test when needed.


yes, he is a very saintly person who, unlike many of us sinners, sees only the good in people. i see people who expect instant gratification as their entitlement, even on free software provided by someone who is a better man than we are. personally i did not think it was a malicious comment, more an ignorant one. ignorance can be cured by knowledge, which was my intent. most new waterfox users do not read the 112 pages of posts which ask frequently much the same question.

 

the ringing of a child's cries from the back seat of the car still ringing in my ears from years ago 'are we there yet - are we there yet?'. i do smile as now my son is 42, has children of his own who shout the same thing as they travel to disneyland in HIS car. insanity is hereditary, you get it from your kids.

 

p.s. - i am sure mr. alex will tell us when we are there yet.


Edited by kronckew - 2/23/15 at 7:14am
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Oooh, a 64-bit Firefox... when I do my ritualistic Windows re-install, I may go this route instead of ye olde Firefox...
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In my opinion, new memory allocator take more cpu and memory than it's predecessor (noticeable with my session with hundreds of tabs which started at 2Go with WF 34, now 3.4Go).

In fact, at start, new memory allocator climb to 12Go then it goes back dox, to 3.4.

Firefox 35.0.1 came out, will we have a new version of Waterfox

I discovered that my problem with memory at start is cause by Youtube Center addon surely in relation with new firefox 35 code.
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