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If it's 250W, I'd be a bit concerned. You really probably would get away with it, but, it'd be a gamble, and you'd probably be cutting it close if so.

You might want to investigate if there's options for upgrading it. Unfortunately, this sort of defies the purpose of the upgrade to begin with, and that is to spend little for a decent upgrade to hold you over until later. Dumping alot into replacing the motherboard, CPU, GPU, and PSU is pretty much a money sink on that.

I did find this.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,2533-17.html

I'm not sure where the GeForce 9500GT stands in comparison, and upgrading the CPU will raise power draw a bit too.

Again, I want to say it'd be okay given the GeForce 9500GT in there now, but you will be adding more power draw upgrading the CPU and GPU, and I'm not sure if that 250W PSU is a good one. The older 250W Dell ones (like seven or eight years ago) were "decent". I don't know about these days though.
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this one is from 2007, and I found a 480w psu for about 15 bucks right here but would that work? will it fit?

and what about this chart?, it shows the nivdia 9500GT at 154 watts at the max load, the chart you linked me to showed the HD 5670 at only 74 or 76 watts at max load
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That PSU won't work. It's a normal ATX form factor and your case isn't ATX size. Unfortunately, the majority of the retail ones you find won't work in your case. I'm not sure what form factor yours is, but ATX won't work.

You don't want it anyway. Remember how I said wattage ratings have no standards? They could rate it at a lower temperature than it will ever realistically operate at (the higher temperature it operates at, the less power it can provide), and other conditions to "inflate" it's wattage capability, even including outright lying. The cheaper ones even have less protection, meaning they could take out your other expensive parts when they're pushed too hard. Trust me, that Logisys is probably an example of most or all of that. Here's an example of how a cheap PSU that claims to be rated at one thing can actually be another.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=123

As for the power consumption of the GeForce 9500GT, the one you found shows consumption for the entire system, not just the video card. No way a GeForce 9500GT alone uses over 150W. Not even the GeForce 8800GT does. It's also not entirely accurate to compare results from two different sites, as they may have used different methods, skewing things, even if only slightly.

However, given the power draw of that GeForce 9500GT in that system, which is more hungry than yours (a quad core and power hungry chipset), it does give hope. If a more hungry system uses under your PSUs capabilities with it, I'd think a Radeon 5670 wouldn't use over ~200W on your more power forgiving system. The more I think of it, the more I think it'd be enough. I'm just hesitant with it being a basic 250W SFF PSU and all. I'm not sure what to recommend. I don't want to say "go for it" and then it quit on you, you know?
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I Understand, but I've also been looking at the review on Tom's hardware for the 5670 graphics card, and was wondering, is there anything a little more powerful I could fit into my PC? Perhaps I shouldn't even worry about trying to get something more powerful then that since it can run crysis with average of 50 FPS on resolutions higher then mine XP What I really want is a computer able to run Skyrim on max settings when its released, which is why I'm going to save a lot over the summer once I have a job.

But any ways back to the present and reality, yeah I really want this graphics card and new CPU, but wanna buy a new PSU to ensure it works. If my current PSU can't support it, will the system simply not turn on or what will happen? And is there any way I can easily find a PSU that will fit in my system to replace what I already have if it doesn't work?

EDIT: Just got some more hope XP the dual core processor I plan on purchasing that you linked me too takes the same amount of wattage as my current processor, so I should have no worries about that, right? And I read through this experiment on the wattage use of the radeon HD 5670 and the wattage came out to be really low. I wasn't sure what the amperes were, so I skimmed down and saw a greyish black chart with wattage measured on the right hand side just below the first three or so charts concerning the radeon HD 5670, it's easy to find, but tell me what you think on this experiment
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Anything too much higher than a Radeon 5670 isn't worth it for that system, if they even make low profile variants of better. A Radeon 5670 is just a hair under a GeForce 8800GT if I remember right, and I just upgraded from one. They're still not bad cards at all, and for a budget CPU and a lower resolution, it'll be fine. So, I say your good on the video card, and the CPU too.

As per the PSU, honestly, we're kind of going in circles here guessing until/unless someone more sure drops by. The low power draw of the GPU and minimal increase draw of the new CPU (TDP ratings are one thing, but you will see more draw with the new CPU) is hopeful, but you might even be close to the PSU's limits as it is, and we also don't know the exact capabilities of that PSU. Again, it's all guess work.
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lol Good point about the circles, sorry about that XP I guess it's hard not to do that when your not sure of something? But that's when you post in the graphics card section and try getting some one sure about it in there xD
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Some one posted that on Nvidia's site it says my current card peaks at about 50 watts, but I think I should still be pretty safe with the new card, it sounds like it to me at least
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