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I'm considering starting a new matx rig for college next year, but I would like to watercool it cause I'm used to the temps I currently get with my watercooled 800D

Yesterday I saw the Fractal Arc Mini case which looked decent for what I'm looking to do. I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not you could top mount a 360 rad externally on the Arc Mini. Unfortunately I don't think the 240 internally would be enough to cool cpu and gpu and that's why I'm looking to use a 360 as well.

Any advice would be appreciated, also if you know any other mAtx form factor cases that are relatively sleek looking (think 800D) please let me know.

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Arc Midi tower will support dual 120mm radiator in top, up to 60mm in thickness.



Looks really cramped with just a 240mm to me. I dont think you can get another rad in that case. Would have to put another outside for gpu +cpu.
Edit: If you dont need the hard drive cages, might beable to mod the case to fit a rad in the front. Thats what I am doing for my 650d.
Edited by Krymore - 3/27/11 at 9:37am
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If you modded the HDD cages it looks like you could sneak a 120mm rad in there too; the 120 + 240 combo should handle CPU and GPU at moderate OC/temps.
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That is one sweet-looking case! I don't see why you couldn't put a 360 rad on it. You could just let 120mm of it hang off the back. Do you have to watercool the GPU? If you're worried about noise, the external rad and fans are going to be noisy anyway. Maybe just wc the cpu and keep it all internal. Just a suggestion.

edit:

What about using an H50 for the CPU and the 240 for the GPU?

Scratch that...... If you use a dual 120 on top, you can't use the rear fan.
Edited by hollywood406 - 3/27/11 at 9:52am
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By any chance do you know the dimensions of that case?
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I'm using GT AP-15s and they are actually pretty quiet in my current case and they don't bother me. The graphics fan screams tho and my 6970 runs rather warm.
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210mm x 405mm x 484mm
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I'm waiting for the Arc Mini as well. You might be able to fit a 360 rad in there, but it'll be awfully tight. I'll just be using the internal 240 for the mount when I get it tho.
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Originally Posted by Skuloth View Post
Yesterday I saw the Fractal Arc Mini case which looked decent for what I'm looking to do. I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not you could top mount a 360 rad externally on the Arc Mini. Unfortunately I don't think the 240 internally would be enough to cool cpu and gpu and that's why I'm looking to use a 360 as well.
What hardware will you be trying to cool and what are your cooling goals? Are you going for lowest temperature, highest overclock, quietest?

It certainly is possible to cool a CPU/GPU single loop with just a 240 rad. My wife's former rig was a Core i5 750 @4GHz with a slightly overclocked GTX 285, both being cooled by a single Black Ice Pro 240 that is pretty thin as far as rads go. Did I get super low temperatures? No, but the system was as stable as can be, and still ran cooler than air cooling could get it. I think the GPU loaded in the 60°C range (don't recall CPU temps) while stock cooling would barely keep it in the 70°C range (in enclosed case) even with fan up to 100%. Also, the two 120mm fans were fixed at just under 1000RPM, so were really quiet.

Is 60°C range good for liquid cooled? Hardly. However, it kicked butt over air cooled in temperature as well as noise, so why not? Does it really matter whether your GPU is running at 60°C or 50°C when everyone else has their air cooled GPU running at much higher temps?

Also, depending on the parts used... for instance newer Sandy Bridge stuff doesn't get too hot. A mere mid-range Cooler Master 212+ can keep a 4.5GHz quad at around 60°C easily under load. Putting these under water is almost overkill.
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Is 60°C range good for liquid cooled? Hardly. However, it kicked butt over air cooled in temperature as well as noise, so why not? Does it really matter whether your GPU is running at 60°C or 50°C when everyone else has their air cooled GPU running at much higher temps?

Also, depending on the parts used... for instance newer Sandy Bridge stuff doesn't get too hot. A mere mid-range Cooler Master 212+ can keep a 4.5GHz quad at around 60°C easily under load. Putting these under water is almost overkill.
^Couldn't have said it better myself. WC can give you similar temps and silence, or awesome temps or something in between. The headroom on a 240 is pretty sizeable, and can handle the loop, just don't expect near-ambient temps.
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