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I planning to build a server that has windows 7 ultimate and windows office 2010, and a have a couple computers that have no os on them currently
so i am wondering if i can set up booting os through lan and have a couple of questions

1. How do you set this whole thing up (i.e. tell windows to "send" the os through the internet and tell computer A to boot through lan)

2. Lets say i get everything up and working, five computers are sucessfully booting the os through lan at once, if i chance the desktop on computer A will it change things on computer B, or if plug in a flash drive and save things to my documents will it also show up in computer B?

3. What componets do you suggest for an os server, my budget is about 3k;
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XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770
NZXT Phantom
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=thin+client+pxe

You'd probably be better off just using the HDD in each PC.
Also, that is complete overkill for a home server and you're just blowing money on it.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=thin+client+pxe

You'd probably be better off just using the HDD in each PC.
Also, that is complete overkill for a home server and you're just blowing money on it.
what the heck no way i would have that for a home server i am just giving an over simplified set up the actual set up that is being planned includes 150+ pcs and 7-10 servers

and can you use pxe to boot win7 it looks like its only for linux
Edited by BadAssClocker - 3/27/11 at 3:55pm
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5770 and consumer grade case just sound like poor choices for a production environment.
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well its a server it doesn't need a highend gpu, nor a good case
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A long time ago I wanted to do this... I determined it to be a hassle and not worth it. I use WinPE on a flash drive and copy media to the flash to install.
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you would need a windows install for each lan pc
each would have its own docs ect..

but repairing or cloning machines would be fairly simple

if you plug a usb drive into a machine only that machine can use it, unless its shared

for the server, fast multicore cpu would be prefered
fast raided hard drive sets would speed things up alot
and gigabit lan due to the ammount of traffic it would consume

linux pxe server can be used for booting xp/7 machines

http://www.savelono.com/linux/how-to...and-samba.html
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When running diskless nodes, booting *nix through PXE is a far more common configuration, however after seaching a bit, it does seem entirely possible to do the same with Windows 7 running as a fat client.

This would probably involve booting Windows 7 from an iSCSI drive over PXE, however this is so uncommon I have no idea how the back-end would need to be setup. Even if this is done properly, for +150 fat clients, you will be needing a massive network backbone (each being 1 Gbit; I wouldn't dare having each client on just 100Mbit) and the servers would need an insane amount of storage bandwidth.

It's a cool idea, sure, but I can't see this being feasible for +150 clients with less than a 100k investment. :|
Edited by DataX - 3/28/11 at 5:00pm
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@datax yeah i though about the clients and the traffic, i am still wondering has anyone on ocn done such a massive set up successfully (budget it not a big issue be cause we have made plans to accommodate huge funds for the servers)?
and would it help if the clients are split up into 7-8 different servers, would it still require a 1 gbit connection?

if i can't get a good way to set this server up (that is without redoing an entire school internet connections lol ) i probably will end up contact Microsoft to see if i can get an educational version in stall;

also thanks @ffejrxx for the read now i only need to get a proper way to set up connection to the server...................
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I've honestly never seen a large scale configuration with Windows fat clients, however I would say running thin clients would be a much feasible option - more so if this is for an educational environment.

The back-end would be running Active Directory and Terminal Services and each client could boot a Windows Thin Client, which is essentially a cut down version of Windows CE with just enough to run RDP. The advantage of this is that each thin client can be something as low-end as an Atom based system on a 100 Mbit connection and users can login on any thin client on the network as their profile and desktop are entirely handled through AD+TS.

Actual performance would depend on the server configuration and amount of active users at any given time, but would be much more manageable either way.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms920348.aspx
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