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hello everybody i was looking into buying the gts 450.. most likely the msi cyclone edition. The only problem is i have a dell inspiron 580 and i have a 300W psu and i was wondering if i need to upgrade or not. I know the minimum is 400W but my computer doesnt really need toooo much power.. it has 6gb ram... 1 DVD drive... 1TB HD 7200rpm.. i5 650 cpu. Will i be able to barely get away with my psu? If not, what is a cheap but trusty psu around 400W i should get? Ive looked on newegg but i dont know the difference between brands. Thanks in advance
Edited by twinklezz - 3/27/11 at 2:28pm
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According to PsuCalculator (you can calculate your own power comsumption there), your computer (i5 650 as there's no 640, 3 sticks of DDR3 RAM, regular mobo, 1 DVD drive, 1 SATA HDD, 2 fans, 1 card reader, 2 devices feeding off from the USB) uses around 160-210w. That's cutting it too close, especially when the minimum wattage needed for a GTS 450 is 106w at stock speeds. the cyclone card is most likely OC'd, so the power requirements are likely to be higher. Plus, personal experience tells me OEM PSU's aren't the highest quality around, and pressing too much the +12v rail without having the PCI-E connector may lead to failure.

I'd recommend you getting, at least, a 500w PSU. Anything from Antec, Seasonic or Corsair is good. I have myself an Antec PSU and it's awesome
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If you're not interested in replacing the power supply, you could opt for a slot-powered card like the GT430/440 or HD5570/HD5670. They won't offer the same level of performance but they aren't too shabby.

The Antec Earthwatts models (380w, 430w, 500w) are solid PSUs. You could also opt for a Corsair CX430 (which may perform more like a 380w model) or CX500. Either of those would more than power your system with the GTS450 and can be had for cheap after promo codes and/or rebates on NewEgg right now. A quality 300w+ power supply will more than power your system (Not sure about the quality of the stock Dell PSU, but I doubt its ability to perform beyond basic loads)
    
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darn, considering i was hoping id take 40-50 bucks off my upgrade bill by going wit the gts 450 because i wouldnt need a psu. DELL WHY CANT YOU JUST GIVE ME A BETTER PSU XD.
Do psu prices go down? Because i might wait a few months.
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Originally Posted by twinklezz View Post
darn, considering i was hoping id take 40-50 bucks off my upgrade bill by going wit the gts 450 because i wouldnt need a psu. DELL WHY CANT YOU JUST GIVE ME A BETTER PSU XD.
Do psu prices go down? Because i might wait a few months.
You could buy one from the buy'n sell section, there are very nice deals on low wattage PSU's. Of course, they're used, but they're cheaper.

I also agree with staryoshi. There are very nice cards that don't ask for a dedicated power cord or a powerful PSU. Any of those can beat intel integrated video anyday anytime. Of course, the GTS 450 is better, but hey, my 9400 GT is still awesome, as long as you're not playing in huge resolutions in max settings, where my integrated video wouldn't even run the game. And it doesn't need a powerful PSU
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My max resolution is 1400x1050 and i currently have the 5450 which is better than nothing... but it still kinnnddaa blows lol
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is there anything better than the 5670 that would work with my psu?
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