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That's a VERY bad way of thinking.

You can get a good socket 1155 board for $160. That's right on par with what good socket 775 boards (like the ep45 ud3p or p5q pro) cost back in 2008. And you can get a QUAD core with HT off that overclocks to 4 ghz *FOR FREE* (meaning 100% of the chips can do this on auto vcore) on stock voltage, and 90% of them can reach 4.5 ghz with small adjustments in voltage (like 1.25-1.3v), and many can reach 5 ghz on air (with moderate to high vcore), for $230. That's significantly *cheaper* than what quads cost in 2008, and even cheaper than a Q9650 goes for new, right now. Now is the time to buy, as long as you can find a B3 stepping board.

If you try to wait 2 years to cheap out on prices, don't be surprised if the prices are not as cheap as you thought they would be. And people will be jumping over the hex core bandwagon by then. Being behind the curve like that works well for video cards (awesome deals on hd 5870's these days), but you miss out on a lot if you do this for a cpu upgrade.

And, yeah...about them prices...those socket 775 boards that used to go for $140-$160 new in 2008? Impossible to find anywhere, and on ebay, they go for over $200 new now. I've even seen used ones sell for that high...

The CPU's are pretty easy to get (heck I bought a new qx9650--yes--qx9650 for $280 in early january) as Intel makes BUCKETLOADS of those things, especially OEM versions...far far more cpu's on the market than mainboards to drive them...

Remember that.
The OEM market for cpu's is FAR FAR bigger than the retail chip market--many many more OEM chips are available over time than retail. Since CPU's go into far more than motherboards you can buy in shops. The motherboard market for major suppliers doesn't exactly have an "OEM" side...(more everything is retail; you can't buy an "OEM" motherboard..you'd be buying a Dell (Alienware), Falcon, HP or something). That's why the supply dries up on retail higher end motherboard parts, once the socket is "abandoned."
Edited by Falkentyne - 3/27/11 at 3:44pm
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Where do you live? Microcenter near by?
I do not have one close to me. I am in WI! I am from Oh been up there for a few years. My parents don't live to far away from the microcenter in Cbus OH but I don't want to bother them with getting stuff for me and then shipping it. I did see they had a heck of a deal on a I3 and mobo for $99! As long as mobo prices are close it really doesn't matter which socket to me but I would like to be able to get a entry level type processor (i3 probably) and work up to one of the higher priced ones.

As you can all guess I am probably going to be watching the for sale section of this site!!
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I started building computer when AMD/Intel/Cyrix(whoa!) were all using Socket 7. Yes, there are more than 7 pins on socket 7, lol.

Then Intel started experiment with slots, then went back to sockets, and then change the socket every freaking generation. Then went out of clever name and then just name the sockets according to the number of pins on them.
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That's a VERY bad way of thinking.

You can get a good socket 1155 board for $160. That's right on par with what good socket 775 boards (like the ep45 ud3p or p5q pro) cost back in 2008. And you can get a QUAD core with HT off that overclocks to 4 ghz *FOR FREE* (meaning 100% of the chips can do this on auto vcore) on stock voltage, and 90% of them can reach 4.5 ghz with small adjustments in voltage (like 1.25-1.3v), and many can reach 5 ghz on air (with moderate to high vcore), for $230. That's significantly *cheaper* than what quads cost in 2008, and even cheaper than a Q9650 goes for new, right now. Now is the time to buy, as long as you can find a B3 stepping board.

If you try to wait 2 years to cheap out on prices, don't be surprised if the prices are not as cheap as you thought they would be. And people will be jumping over the hex core bandwagon by then. Being behind the curve like that works well for video cards (awesome deals on hd 5870's these days), but you miss out on a lot if you do this for a cpu upgrade.

And, yeah...about them prices...those socket 775 boards that used to go for $140-$160 new in 2008? Impossible to find anywhere, and on ebay, they go for over $200 new now. I've even seen used ones sell for that high...

The CPU's are pretty easy to get (heck I bought a new qx9650--yes--qx9650 for $280 in early january) as Intel makes BUCKETLOADS of those things, especially OEM versions...far far more cpu's on the market than mainboards to drive them...
I get what you are saying and am learning fast with talking to people here. I am doing searches and all kinds of things as I read what people are posting back to me. I see that 1155 boards are not that much higher in price and they do make some nice entry level cpu's that I could look at now and upgrade to better later. I just didn't want to get into a board and have to spend $250 or more in a processor with knowing that I am also going to have to buy ram on top of that.

The power supply I just got for my computer is the ocz stealthxstream 2 700W which I assume (or I hope) would work just fine in a new build. It was ordered yesterday so I don't have it yet but I will have that to play with later on in the week.
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Maybe this is the wrong place to ask but since I have so many people giving me advice on stuff right now, is the older stuff still worth anything? Is there one of the forums where I could post up older stuff that I have so people could let me know what its worth before I list it for sale (or not if its not worth anything). I know that you have to list a price with your item when selling it but its kind of hard to do if I have NO IDEA if its even worth listing lol!
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Fleabay.
Older previous high clocking socket 775 boards sell for an arm and a leg over there, especially if new. And due to the number of scammers selling defective boards as "tested/working pull, returns not accepted" (anything from boards abused with 1.8v NB to half the RAM slots dead, capacitors fell off, etc), you wind up finding well tested boards with a return period, selling for huge bucks, like over 25% higher than they went for new.

You have tons of people coming from older dual cores, or even pentium 4's, who want a huge kick in the butt of performance, after finding a cheap Q9650 deal, and want 4.5 ghz on air/water. Then they need a board...

The CPU's are cheaper. The boards aren't, unless they're the super valueline terrible overclocking boards, that are still available at retailers...

The B2 recall didn't help things one bit, either.
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You're wrong...

1366 and 1156 came out around the same time, if anything 1156 slightly earlier, but after 775.

then 1155 came out.

then there will be ivy bridge.
Which will be available both on LGA 1155 and 2011, just like Sandy Bridge.
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long live socket 775
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Yeah, the numbers aren't in order. It actually refers to the number of pins on the processor.
** pins on the mobo. the processors dont have pins on them do they. well not the newer ones anyway
     
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