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post #31 of 56
Idc if the 7**/8** boards can use BD. While it remains to be seen what "features" will be lost (or how much performance, more likely....just conjecture on my part). I'ma be upgrading to a 990, because I'd hate to think I spent that much on a new cpu & not get the full capabilities out of that purchase. Wasted potential.
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Depends on the features lost by using an AM3 board. If I lose Cool n' Quiet then I don't care. If I can't overclock the CPU, then my lovely CH IV will end up on eBay.
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A simple way to put it is, if you have a newer 8xx series board that has a "black" cpu socket, it may support bulldozer via Bios update. If it doesnt have the black cpu socket, bulldozer will not physically fit in the socket, much less work.

How the heck after weeks of this do people with regular AM3 boards without the black sockets that they bought months or year or so ago still believe they may be able to drop in a BD chip!? kookoo.gif

Should take the time and read some articles before getting your hopes up.
Edited by Chuckclc - 3/29/11 at 6:52am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuckclc;12915512 
A simple way to put it is, if you have a newer 8xx series board that has a "black" cpu socket, it may support bulldozer via Bios update. If it doesnt have the black cpu socket, bulldozer will not physically fit in the socket, much less work.

How the heck after weeks of this do people with regular AM3 boards without the black sockets that they bought months or year or so ago still believe they may be able to drop in a BD chip!? kookoo.gif

Should take the time and read some articles before getting your hopes up.

Here we go again. rolleyes.gif You do not have proof that BD won't fit into AM3 boards. Asus clearly stated that they will support AM3+ CPU's , whether that's BD or not remains to be seen, but it's a clear indicator that AM3+ CPU's will fit.

So unless you can provide some concrete proof, I (and many others) would appreciate it if people like you simply stopped posting your nonsense. It's getting quite annoying when there is an arrogant post like yours on almost every page on every thread about BD, which is fundamentally lacking concrete proof, information and knowledge about what you are talking about.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geoxile;12893722 
Are you suggesting that...

WE WERE USING AM3+ BOARDS TEH ENTIRE TIME?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw

LOLS !specool.gifapplaud.gif

But hey lucky me ive got Crosshair IV Extreme biggrin.gif:drunken:
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Originally Posted by Squirrel;12920019 
Here we go again. rolleyes.gif You do not have proof that BD won't fit into AM3 boards. Asus clearly stated that they will support AM3+ CPU's , whether that's BD or not remains to be seen, but it's a clear indicator that AM3+ CPU's will fit.

So unless you can provide some concrete proof, I (and many others) would appreciate it if people like you simply stopped posting your nonsense. It's getting quite annoying when there is an arrogant post like yours on almost every page on every thread about BD, which is fundamentally lacking concrete proof, information and knowledge about what you are talking about.

And us that want to know EXACTLY what will work and what will not work don't want your nonsense about the stunt that Asus pulled. That single event has caused more harm and confusion because even Asus does not have concrete proof that BD, let alone an AM3+ CPU will run on AM3. Just because they "have a test bios" does not mean jack until it is shown in public. OH YEAH, the NDA prevents that. So take YOUR nonsense and go play somewhere else. Troll. wave2.gif
Edited by Obakemono - 3/30/11 at 1:55pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Obakemono;12934654 
And us that want to know EXACTLY what will work and what will not work don't want your nonsense about the stunt that Asus pulled. That single event has caused more harm and confusion because even Asus does not have concrete proof that BD, let alone an AM3+ CPU will run on AM3. Just because they "have a test bios" does not mean jack until it is shown in public. OH YEAH, the NDA prevents that. So take YOUR nonsense and go play somewhere else. Troll. wave2.gif

You and others, who want to know exactly what will work, have to shut up and wait instead of persistently trying to discredit the facts that we have so far received smile.gif And yes, Asus has proof and has confirmed it.

And care to post that NDA? No? Ah yeah, you're just making stuff up...cheers.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Obakemono;12895714 
Then why did the AM3b socket come out? Also, if I have a mobo with the AM3b socket on the 8xx chipset, is it better than a mobo that only had a bios flash to run BD? AMD has stated that it is not supporting BD on AM3, only AM3+, so they should support a mobo with the 8xx chipset with the AM3b (AM3+) socket. Seems to me Asus is going to push a product that might run BD pretty poorly vs. a supported socket and the 9xx/8xx chipset mobo.

In terms of chipsets, you could put an 890FX with an Athlon64 if you wanted due to HT being backwards compatible, the socket difference is usually a difference in the supporting stuff, eg. AM2+ being split voltage for CPU and CPU-NB, AM3 being DDR3, etc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by awdrifter;12899786 
Maybe that extra pin is for 140w CPUs or for backwards compatibility with future (AM4?) CPUs. I'm pretty sure Asus wouldn't just do a formal press release without some pretty solid information on what the Bulldozer pin layout looks like. AMD on the other hand stands to gain chipset sales by not supporting Bulldozer on AM3, so it makes sense that they would purposely remove the support.

It's probably just a ground line or something to ensure you don't put an AM3+ CPU in an AM3 board.

Relax guys, all we can do is wait for BD and AM3b boards to be released to know what you'll miss out on with one of these "AM3a" would be missing out on.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrel;12935910 
You and others, who want to know exactly what will work, have to shut up and wait instead of persistently trying to discredit the facts that we have so far received smile.gif And yes, Asus has proof and has confirmed it.

And care to post that NDA? No? Ah yeah, you're just making stuff up...cheers.gif

And while you are at it shut the hell up yourself dude! You and a few others were foaming at the mouth that the Asus stunt was a sure thing that you started bashing people for it! NOBODY HAS SEEN PROOF THAT ASUS DID IT. Like I said before, JUST BECAUSE THERE IS A TEST BIOS OUT, does not mean that it is true.

Show us the proof that they had a BD CPU running on your POS Asus mobo. PLEASE! You ask me for proof, then why don't you us show proof as well. I don't have the copy of the NDA, but it is obvious that the NDA might have been broken or somewhat exposed because of Asus.

You repeated flame people who disagree with you, and frankly I think you have a real issue buddy. I'm sick of people like you that go nuts over something then treat people like crap when they have a different view on the subject.

http://hothardware.com/News/Mud-In-The-Water-Asus-Claims-Existing-Boards-AM3-Compatible/
Edited by Obakemono - 3/30/11 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by Scorpion87;12899393 
And may you tell me whats written in that NDA that doesn't allow ASUS to claim that AM3+ CPUs are capable of running in an AM3 socket ?

P.s. Hard proof would be best, even better would be the whole NDA.

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