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post #1 of 19
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I've seen this a lot in numerous threads. It is a misconception.

Games use between one, two, and up to four cores, depending on the game. There are no games currently out that use more than four threads. For the sake of simplicity cores/threads are considered equal in this assessment.

I see people say, 'Oh, well BC2 uses more than four cores!' and 'Well this CPU (X6) performs better in games that use more than four cores compared to that CPU'.

This is wrong. Windows spreads the load of four threads over the six cores for BC2 and other games that apparently seem to use more than four cores/threads.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. If I'm not, spread the word.
    
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wrong.

http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/87...ted-games.html
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post #3 of 19
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but if Windows is splitting the game load over 6 available cores, then it sounds like the game's using 6 cores to me. Natively, no, but systematically? Sure. So theoretically a 6 core CPU might outperform a 4 core CPU in a game.

I've never considered or argued the topic before, so excuse my ignorance.
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So those games are multithreaded to the point beyond four threads? Can you confirm this?
    
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meh i only have 4 physical cores, but 8 threads. heres during the GTA IV benchmark.


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post #6 of 19
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So again, seems that Windows spreads the load from four threads across 'x' amount of cores that Windows sees.

I really doubt there are any games that are multithreaded beyond four threads.
    
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post #7 of 19
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I really doubt there are any games that are multithreaded beyond four threads.
I've never heard of any.
post #8 of 19
Dual core fuh-evah

There's so few games that properly use even 4 cores it's retarded.
    
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post #9 of 19
Youre right about 1 thing, games that do use more than 4 cores show no benefit from using more than 4 cores, except 1 game that I know of, maybe there is more

Lost Planet 2, which runs on MT Framework so maybe more capcom games that come out in future will also show benefit.
post #10 of 19
Civilization 5 uses more than 4 cores.
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