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I used to have possibly bad vDrop, but I got that fixed?
I can't find the thread where I posted the problem, but I eventually got an awesomely easy RMA from NCIX replacing an old BFG 550W for the current PSU, and it's completely fine last time I checked.


Let me just say this, I don't think the problem's source is one, definite thing:
First of all, it's quite possibly a little problem from everything (bad VRAM, vDrop, CPU-NB, etc all together), because the symptoms of the crashes/errors are almost always completely different.
But what I suspect even more is that it's very random in nature, because some settings seem to work while others don't, and sometimes they do work while sometimes they don't.
I'm not exaggerating or being dramatic here, if you saw what my computer's been doing for the past week or so, you'd really understand.
Honestly, it's REALLY random, and...

Actually, I've just realized something.
The periods of continuous-till-voltage-upped crashes, only happened in the mornings; first boots of the day. Only in mornings, that is, after the very first crash while playing Crysis 2.
I don't know if this means anything, but so far, after struggling to make it stop random restarting for up to half an hour or so in the morning, it'd be fine for the rest of the day - except for GPU/gaming instability (not crashes) which isn't as dramatic, because I know the VRAMs are already bad and am actually planning to buy a new one soon.

Another If I remember correctly now... the "period" of constant crashing has happened about 3 times so far... sorry if it's conflicting.

... really, at EVERYTHING (yes EVERYTHING) stock, it would be ok, then it would be not ok, and so on...
Edited by BPK - 3/28/11 at 12:13am
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http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/27...ped-responding

For the GPU problems, does the above make sense? I'm not sure whether to believe or not.
Is it really just the extremely low idle clocks (yes they're like 150/300) that cause instability when I just boot up Windows and not actually running anything, which causes the constant driver failures+gray/blank/colour-stripes screens+crashes?
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Hmm sounds like a messy situation.

If you have a spare video card I would try that, or just remove your card and run integrated graphics. This is definitely the first thing I would try because it sounds like your video card IS having issues so you need to eliminate that variable first to test what is and what is not working.

If you do that and it still fails I would try using a different power supply if you have one available.

If its not either your video card or your power supply well then I donno your going to probably have a hard time to isolate the problem. If you have a spare cpu/motherboard/ram you could try to swap those out one at a time to test.

But really if things are that bad and you do everything you can to try to isolate the problem and you still can't fix it then maybe its just time for a new system altogether.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/27...ped-responding

For the GPU problems, does the above make sense? I'm not sure whether to believe or not.
Is it really just the extremely low idle clocks (yes they're like 150/300) that cause instability when I just boot up Windows and not actually running anything, which causes the constant driver failures+gray/blank/colour-stripes screens+crashes?
*shrug*

Can you bios mod the cards to adjust the low power state voltages?

My 470s idle at 51 Mhz.
    
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*shrug*

Can you bios mod the cards to adjust the low power state voltages?

My 470s idle at 51 Mhz.
51Mhz? Wow.

I've noticed upping the minimum clock actually helps. For example, just now I booted up the comp after coming back from the gym, and it started giving me "Display driver stopped responding and has recovered" messages over and over again, until I raised the idle clocks to 400/900, and then the messages almost immediately stopped.
I don't know if it was coincidence or not, but I sure hope it does solve some of the GPU problems.



Still, after some testing, have no idea how to avoid needing a ridiculous 1.4Vcore on stock speed. -.-
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You might be able to use a Rivatuner profile of sorts to permanently get the idle clock up (or whatever program/script ups the idle clocks, drag it into the startup folder in start menu)

And yeah, a lot of new Fermi cards use rather low idle clocks for a reason I don't really know.
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Currently I'm using a CCC preset profile to put the minimum idles up to 400/900, but I noticed once or twice so far, when I left my computer alone after booting for a bit without applying the profile (there's no option in CCC to have it automatically apply, stupid), it started giving me the "display driver stopped responding..." poo again.

I tried using Afterburner, but that sets a static speed, not a minimum speed as far as I can tell.

So, Rivatuner you say?
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RivaTuner might work (I think I remember a way to use RivaTuner to do it to Nvidia cards) but I wouldn't be sure exactly how to do it.
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