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Why don't you just disable it? If you set the limit to 500W it doesn't mean your CPU is going to overheat and die, it just means it'll allow you to go until 500W, which of course, won't happen on an i7 2600k tongue.gif

Max I pull with my 2600k 4.8Ghz 1.34v is around 175W with whole system on iddle except the CPU @ load.

It's not the wattage limit that's stopping me. I've already set it to 300w, and there's no way that my 2500k is pulling even 200w.

It's the current (amperage) limit that's killing me here. I'm stuck at 120a, and it WON'T go any higher.

OR, it could also be a temperature related throttle I suppose. I'm not passing 70*C ever...but that doesn't mean that its not possible. As soon as I raise my vcore over 1.40v (load), it will throttle to 4.7 or 4.6, even though I'm stable with 1.40v. If I set it to 1.42v, same settings otherwise, it throttles.
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It's not the wattage limit that's stopping me. I've already set it to 300w, and there's no way that my 2500k is pulling even 200w.

It's the current (amperage) limit that's killing me here. I'm stuck at 120a, and it WON'T go any higher.

OR, it could also be a temperature related throttle I suppose. I'm not passing 70*C ever...but that doesn't mean that its not possible. As soon as I raise my vcore over 1.40v (load), it will throttle to 4.7 or 4.6, even though I'm stable with 1.40v. If I set it to 1.42v, same settings otherwise, it throttles.

Nothing to do with Amperage... For example, my PSU can give 62A on the 12V Rail for the GPU's, which is about 744W. 120A is just... lol

There's no way you're being limited because of your Amperage tongue.gif

You're on air, I wouldn't give it above 1.35v tbh, and anything below 75ºC on load is fine. For 24/7 Folding I'd try to keep it below 70ºC, but that won't throttle it, these chips start to throttle at around 96ºC.
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Nothing to do with Amperage... For example, my PSU can give 72A on the 12V Rail for the GPU's, which is about 744W. 120A is just... lol

There's no way you're being limited because of your Amperage tongue.gif

You're on air, I wouldn't give it above 1.35v tbh, and anything below 75ºC on load is fine. For 24/7 Folding I'd try to keep it below 70ºC, but that won't throttle it, these chips start to throttle at around 96ºC.

120a x 1.40v = 168w. It's the amperage to do with the CPU, not 12v.

So yes, the 120a rating could very easily be throttling me. Stock is 105a.

And I'm not afraid of vcore. Intel spec sheet shows 1.52v as being safe. I trust their engineers. And folding, I never pass 55*C. Prime I load up around 69*C or so. I figure 85*C for Prime and 70 for folding is safe.
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud;12899640 
120a x 1.40v = 168w. It's the amperage to do with the CPU, not 12v.

So yes, the 120a rating could very easily be throttling me. Stock is 105a.

And I'm not afraid of vcore. Intel spec sheet shows 1.52v as being safe. I trust their engineers. And folding, I never pass 55*C. Prime I load up around 69*C or so. I figure 85*C for Prime and 70 for folding is safe.


Can't you modify it through BIOS to something a bit higher?

I'm hitting like 178-180W with my 2600k @ 4.8Ghz if I make it a full stress test.

You would only need a bit more amperage, something to give around 175-185W.

I don't know, I'm just, can't help you here frown.gif

And yes, Intel says the max VID is 1.52v, but that's under extreme circumstances.

Anything above 1.38v under Air for me is quite risky, specially if you Fold.
    
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Can't you modify it through BIOS to something a bit higher?

I'm hitting like 178-180W with my 2600k @ 4.8Ghz if I make it a full stress test.

You would only need a bit more amperage, something to give around 175-185W.

I don't know, I'm just, can't help you here frown.gif

Yeah, I know. frown.gif It absolutely will not go past 120a. That's my highest limit. Lowest is 90a. There's no way to disable it either that I can find.

I guess all I can do is sit here and wait for Biostar to release a BIOS that fixes it, or buy another board. I'm thinking about the MSI P67 GD45 board for $140. Not sure though. If I bought that, I could resell my Biostar and make most of that money back.
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud;12899261 
Is a SSD really worth it though, considering my rig is on 24/7? It's not like I'm going to be all that impressed with boot speeds, since I never reboot.

And yes, I HAVE used a SSD already. It was nice. But I'm not 110% convinced its the right upgrade for me RIGHT NOW.

If you want more GPU horsepower, another GTX570.

For a new boost in speed for the PC in windows, SSD
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud;12899660 
Yeah, I know. frown.gif It absolutely will not go past 120a. That's my highest limit. Lowest is 90a. There's no way to disable it either that I can find.

I guess all I can do is sit here and wait for Biostar to release a BIOS that fixes it, or buy another board. I'm thinking about the MSI P67 GD45 board for $140. Not sure though. If I bought that, I could resell my Biostar and make most of that money back.

I'd wait for a new BIOS, any ideas if Biostar knows about this issue? Are they trying to fix it? If so, I'd wait. It's not like your CPU is slow @ 4.6Ghz tongue.gif
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If you want more GPU horsepower, another GTX570.

For a new boost in speed for the PC in windows, SSD

Why would he want "another" 570? tongue.gif He's got a 470 biggrin.gif
    
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If you want more GPU horsepower, another GTX570.

For a new boost in speed for the PC in windows, SSD

I have a single 470, and I'm moving to SFF soon. There's no way I can keep dual 470's cool in a tiny case.

And I don't reboot often, so a SSD might not be a great choice, it'd be more of a luxury, no?
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I have a single 470, and I'm moving to SFF soon. There's no way I can keep dual 470's cool in a tiny case.

And I don't reboot often, so a SSD might not be a great choice, it'd be more of a luxury, no?

Yeah, not worth it, just a luxury. Not really a need tongue.gif
    
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Emailed Biostar about the throttling problems. Hopefully I'll get a response. If nothing comes of it, guess I'll have to buy a better board instead and call that my upgrade. smile.gif
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