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Poll Results: If you had my sig rig ,wich would you buy # 1-4, or would you wait/save and buy #5-7

 
  • 24% (18)
    single GTX 580
  • 9% (7)
    single GTX 590
  • 19% (14)
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  • 9% (7)
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  • 12% (9)
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i would go SLI GTX580 or to save a bit of money CF 6970's or 1x 6990
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Ok i learned something today!( OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE) I guess i assumed those next gen cards , worked as a single unit ( without the need to crossfire/sli them) I didnt know its two gpu,s sli.d on the same board. I thought they worked together ,and not like the classic sli partnership where your not using all your cards potiental. ( basicaly)

So there is no way to harness the real power of two GPU,S on a single card yet?
That is correct. The HD6990 and the GTX590 are both dual GPU cards.

6990 = two 6970's (or is it 6950's???) on a single PCB, crossfired internally
590 = two GTX580's in SLI on a single PCB with power issues, SLI'd internally
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That is correct. The HD6990 and the GTX590 are both dual GPU cards.

6990 = two 6970's (or is it 6950's???) on a single PCB, crossfired internally
590 = two GTX580's in SLI on a single PCB with power issues, SLI'd internally
6990 are indeed x2 HD6970 chips.

And yeah, 590 are x2 580, wonder why they explode... Oh I know! They're trying to make x2 580 internal which can take up to 580W-600W just the cards, and they want to do that on a 350W pci-e lane?

Yeah, no wonder...
    
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
That is correct. The HD6990 and the GTX590 are both dual GPU cards.

6990 = two 6970's (or is it 6950's???) on a single PCB, crossfired internally
590 = two GTX580's in SLI on a single PCB with power issues, SLI'd internally
So really the only true advantage of these cards are they save space, and cost less than two single cards ,and you could quad sli/crossfire with only two cards total! ( correct me if im wrong a single 590, does not out perform SLI 580,s ?) WOW ok so really all they did was sli, or crossfire two 580,s and two 6970,s on the same board? And seems they dont scale as well as single cards ? ( correct me if im wrong)
If a single 590 performed as well as two 580,s i could see the point Maybe!
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So really the only true advantage of these cards are they save space, and cost less than two single cards ,and you could quad sli/crossfire with only two cards total! ( correct me if im wrong a single 590, does not out perform SLI 580,s ? WOW ok so really all they did was sli, or crossfire two 580,s and two 6970,s on the same board? And seems they dont scale as well as single cards ? ( correct me if im wrong) if a single 590 performed as well as two 580,s i could see the point Maybe!
You're right, takes less space. But it also performs less than their equivalent in CF/SLI, unless you OC it.

However, you can't disable the 2nd core on dual cards as far as I know, so I rather have 2 physical cards
    
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So really the only true advantage of these cards are they save space, and cost less than two single cards ,and you could quad sli/crossfire with only two cards total! ( correct me if im wrong a single 590, does not out perform SLI 580,s ?) WOW ok so really all they did was sli, or crossfire two 580,s and two 6970,s on the same board? And seems they dont scale as well as single cards ? ( correct me if im wrong)
If a single 590 performed as well as two 580,s i could see the point Maybe!
Yes, the only advantage is to save space, and maybe a few bucks. The single 590 performs LESS than 2 580's. Single 6990 performs roughly on par with 2 6970's (due to not being restricted by power). They scale as good or BETTER than single cards in dual configuration do, because they don't have to deal with PCIe traffic, and bridges. It's all internal, so its SLIGHTLY faster. Like maybe, MAYBE 1% faster.

But again, you run into the problem of not being able to disable SLI / Crossfire with a dual GPU card...and that (to me) is the biggest downside.

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You're right, takes less space. But it also performs less than their equivalent in CF/SLI, unless you OC it.

However, you can't disable the 2nd core on dual cards as far as I know, so I rather have 2 physical cards
This also sums it up pretty well.
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6990's.
However if you don't get a higher refresh rate monitor any card is pointless.
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Yes, the only advantage is to save space, and maybe a few bucks. The single 590 performs LESS than 2 580's. Single 6990 performs roughly on par with 2 6970's (due to not being restricted by power). They scale as good or BETTER than single cards in dual configuration do, because they don't have to deal with PCIe traffic, and bridges. It's all internal, so its SLIGHTLY faster. Like maybe, MAYBE 1% faster.

But again, you run into the problem of not being able to disable SLI / Crossfire with a dual GPU card...and that (to me) is the biggest downside.



This also sums it up pretty well.
No, actually, a 6970 CF will scale as good as a 6990, won't scale any worse, won't scale any better.

But basically, you got it
    
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Hmmm ?? I guess i thought these next Gen cards were really cutting edge. Seems like there just the same product ( just in a shiny new package and a new name) I wonder if they were hoping for better results? Or this is just another marketing plow to get some more of my money , untill something better comes along! Seems to me like this isnt NEW at all ! Didnt ATI do the same thing with the 4gb 597x ?
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Hmmm ?? I guess i thought these next Gen cards were really cutting edge. Seems like there just the same product ( just in a shiny new package and a new name) I wonder if they were hoping for better results? Or this is just another marketing plow to get some more of my money , untill something better comes along! Seems to me like this isnt NEW at all ! Didnt ATI do the same thing with the 4gb 597x ?
No, actually, they're a nice improvement over the previous gen of cards...

I moved from an HD5970 to x2 HD6970 (The equivalent to an HD6990, which would be the new big brother of the HD5970) and I noticed quite a good performance increase.

So no, it's not the same cards over and over, we've had a nice improvement.
    
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