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The best thing about this is that you'll find this game used for the 360 for cheap pretty quickly as the used copies start to pile up in Game Stop in a few months.
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post #152 of 188
This is no suprise at all.

These are only retail sales, which as other have stated, only account for about 20% of all PC game sales. So these figures are rather distorted.

To all of you arguing that piracy is the problem. That's a load a poop. In my game design course we have looked into piracy and the pros and cons and our conclusion (as a class) was that piracy is GOOD for gaming going by the evidence and research we had access too.

Piracy actually results in an increase in sales, not decrease. Since most people who pirate already have no intention to buy the game in the first place. However some people pirate it, like the game and choose to go out and buy it. In fact, my favorite game is The Witcher and if it wasn't for torrents I would have never even heard about it. Safe to say, I went out and bought it the very next day and already pre-ordered number 2.

Its like those idiots who say gaming causes violence but neglect to take into account any pre-existing medical conditions such as mental illness or living in a violent household. Its all flawed.

You can't look at piracy firgures and say every single one is a lost sale. It doesn't work that way. Especially when all the evidence says that the vast majority of pirates have NO (0%, none, nadda, nothing) intention to purchase the product in the first place.

The funny thing about all this piracy crap is that the Nintendo CEO doesn't even blame piracy for lack of sales. He is an advocate of the "IF you make it, they will come" attitude. That is, if you make a quality product, it will sell. End of story.

The games market is over-saturated with generic garbage and piracy is a form of protest against the whoring out of game franchises that the likes of Activision do and the general lack of quality in the industry with publishers putting unrealistic constraints on developers just so they can release in time for peak season. Over-saturation is the reason for poor sales figures, not piracy.

Crysis 2 is just like any other generic crap you can buy, just with a new $60 price tag. Its nothing new or fresh and for that reason I can see why PC sales are lower than some might expect. You only have to look at the Witcher or STALKER for successful PC games. The Witcher has sold over 1.5million units and for a PC only, polish developed game, that is fantastic. STALKER franchise has sold over 2 million games. Why did they? Because they were something new, or at least fresh. Sure, the Witcher was like many other RPG's but the story was so rich and enthralling that it lead to sales. STALKER was a whole new level of RPG/FPS hybrid and had an amazing atmosphere that we had never really experienced before.

Point being, good games sell. Bad ones don't. Its not piracy's fault, stop using that as an excuse. All it does is give the publishers and developers a scapegoat for making crap games and gives them reasons to keep using intruisive DRM
Edited by Vengeance47 - 3/29/11 at 5:03am
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So the MP not requiring a cd key check is still online...
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I'm sorry but you're comparing apples and oranges here. Portal 2 is not an FPS. It's an adventure/puzzle game. And even if it would be considered an FPS, Crysis is known for it's graphic and sandbox gameplay. It's the reason people bought the 2. It's what they expected.
They're similar enough for basic comparisons to be relevant. The fact is that there's a huge double standard. Who cares what the first Crysis was known for?! You act like they have a 20 yr track record or something. Making 1 game does not lock them into making the same exact game for the next 10 yrs.



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This is why I stopped caring for or playing FPS games
Can you tell us when you started to play FPSs, because that doesn't make sense. How can you even BEGIN to start caring about FPS's when practically all FPSs from the inception of gaming have been non-sandbox? Even the games you're calling a 'sandbox' really aren't a sandbox. Crysis1 and Far Cry were linear too. It's just that the area was a bit WIDER than a hallway, but you still went in 1 direction 99% of the time.

The only TRUE sandbox FPS I can remember is S.T.A.L.K.E.R., where you went back and forth between maps as you pleased, completing objectives.
    
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They're similar enough for basic comparisons to be relevant. The fact is that there's a huge double standard. Who cares what the first Crysis was known for?! You act like they have a 20 yr track record or something. Making 1 game does not lock them into making the same exact game for the next 10 yrs.
How are they similar? They're from the first person perspective?

Also, they're more than welcome to make a new game. But they shouldn't have called it Crysis. They did also say that they are trying to bring a 'PC experience' to the console. What do PCs have and consoles don't? Graphics.


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Can you tell us when you started to play FPSs, because that doesn't make sense. How can you even BEGIN to start caring about FPS's when practically all FPSs from the inception of gaming have been non-sandbox? Even the games you're calling a 'sandbox' really aren't a sandbox. Crysis1 and Far Cry were linear too. It's just that the area was a bit WIDER than a hallway, but you still went in 1 direction 99% of the time.

The only TRUE sandbox FPS I can remember is S.T.A.L.K.E.R., where you went back and forth between maps as you pleased, completing objectives.
I've played very few FPS that I liked.

Half-life 1 was my first FPS. Yes it was linear, but for it's time it amazing compared to the other games. It pushed (along with quake) the FPS genre into the next level.

I also played System Shock 2. It was an RPG/FPS which combined the two elements quite gracefully. That is still one of my favorite games to play.

Call of Duty 2/ Medal of Honor (can't remember which one exactly) They were amazing because of the usage of old weapons.

Duke Nukem 3D: Shake it baby!

Fallout 3: Not linear. Also an RPG/FPS but still not quite as combined as System Shock 2.

I do agree that almost all FPS are linear. But that is no excuse for them to be all the same. The truth is, it's not lack of talent on the part of the devs. They just stick to tried and true formulas and don't take any risk because they are just after the money.
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expected

the only damn thing that is played in that horrible console are FPS games
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Why does everyone forget that Valve does not release Steam sales? And Steam=80% of the PC Game market.

Edit: I've noticed allot of Crysis, BF, and EA fans don't like Steam, or forget it exists entirely. Like it or not you have to realize how prevalent Steam is in PC Gaming.
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Why does everyone forget that Valve does not release Stea
And crysis 2 is on the top of the "Top Sellers" list, if that means anything.
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Why does everyone forget that Valve does not release Steam sales? And Steam=80% of the PC Game market.

Edit: I've noticed allot of Crysis, BF, and EA fans don't like Steam, or forget it exists entirely. Like it or not you have to realize how prevalent Steam is in PC Gaming.
Totally wrong. I love Crysis (the original and warhead mind you) and Battlefield, I also use steam for all my games.
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Crysis 1 was about PC Enthusiasts get brought down on there knees by a Out of this World game which had Amazing Graphics, that brought PC Forward in components.. Especially Graphics Cards...

Now they just took 1 step forward and 3 steps back by Releasing a DX9 Console Port for PC...

Crytek have a QQ about Piracy, if you didnt stab Us PC Gamers in the back then we would buy it.. Its a fish eat fish Gaming world nowdays brought down by crappy Consoles and the horrid ports. There is nothing enthusiast about Console Gaming..

Being an Enthusaist usually means Knowledge of your system in side and out, also taking Pride in what you built, moded and perfected..

Going to a shop and paying $300 for a X360 DOES NOT CUT IT..

Im Sorry Crytek, you were like a champion Racehorse. Had lots of promise but ran away from it and turned to the dark side..

End of rant, Kthxbai
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