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give it like 10-20 years and there wont be xbox or playstation.. some displays will be "gaming capable" certified be like today's THX or DTS certs, all big games will be pay-to-play running in distributed cloud environment feeding the dumb display terminals.

also, the days of "personal computers" for the masses are numbered... who needs a PC when everything has embedded computers

pc nerds will be near extinct.... OCN will have 1 post per day... but there still be a few hardcore neckbeardy dudes around
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From my experience there was absolutely no input lag on my end, which is why I was pretty amazed. I just demoed Metro and there was no input lag. I even got to demo the new assassins creed. I didn't experience any input lag at all.

Just wish BC2 was available.
Well I'm the kind of guy who is annoyed at the input lag of his LCD. I'm the kind of guy who won't play BC2 because I can't disable the mouse smoothing. If you're not that guy, you wouldn't know.
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Check out GAIKAI, it seems better then OnLive because it's not only USA and if I'm right there is no need to pay monthly sub.

But GAIKAI is still in testing phase.. though it seems to be better then OnLive at least in some aspects.

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Gay guy?
Calm down boy. There is no need to insult me, I understand that you enjoy playing on your own pc better rather then through some servers etc... but who doesn't? But thats not the point here, we are talking about the technology and how something like this will change the future quite a bit. So stop acting like a jackass and express your opinion on this tech rather then going around, quoting other people and posting useless crap.
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Highest I have seen is maybe 115ms.
115 ms is a high ping. Most I have seen at my house is 70ms, and I get ~16 mbps down and 3 mbps up.
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Check out GAIKAI, it seems better then OnLive because it's not only USA and if I'm right there is no need to pay monthly sub.

But GAIKAI is still in testing phase.. though it seems to be better then OnLive at least in some aspects.
Gay guy?
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I wasn't really talking about any country specifically, but BT within the UK is currently pushing for nationwide fibre optic.

Also, what De-Zant said.
The UK is pretty crap for Internet speeds and bandwidth caps/throttling to be honest. I was very happy with my 8Mbps/0.75Mbps (download/upload) ADSL connection with UK Online until Sky, like any overly-capitalist company would, bought them out and killed them. I moved to Virgin Media's 50Mbps/5Mbps fibre optic service and was plagued with nothing but bandwidth issues, specifically on my upload, killing all possibility of online gaming. Then there's the throttling...

Anyway, long story short, I cancelled before being tied to their crap service and found another holy grail ISP, "BE Broadband". I'm subscribed to their 24Mbps/2.5Mbps ADSL2+ service and I get 16Mbps/2Mbps steady speed all day long with no caps and no throttling. I'm very happy with this but I doubt this is classed as "high end broadband". The UK is very far behind what they should be at, to be honest. All we get is ISPs running the same crap networks selling us PR crap attached to capped/throttled products. Most of these "ISPs" also know nothing of Internet connections - they are just a regular company trying to milk the Internet cow with absolutely no technical knowledge beyond getting you "set up" (so they can start charging you).

"BE Broadband" has so far been one of those amazing ISPs, like UK Online was prior for me. I just hope it lasts. My friend in Japan is dreading moving back to the UK because of Internet connections over here compared to Japan. He currently gets 100Mbps download (not sure on upload but I believe it's 10Mbps), uncapped and unthrottled.
    
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Yes I saw that coming when the most advanced Crysis 1 got downgraded to this kiddie box Crysis 2 version we were handed.
Oh well, now we can save money and put it towards other upgrades as more SSDs and better/bigger/more monitors, etc.
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I bet you the company goes out of business.

Its not a bad idea, but i dont see long term how they make money, or how they are able to guarentee the service. They need someone big like nintendo, sony, or microsoft to back the service
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I bet you the company goes out of business.

Its not a bad idea, but i dont see long term how they make money, or how they are able to guarentee the service. They need someone big like nintendo, sony, or microsoft to back the service
You're obviously not looking at the larger picture here. Do you know anyone still on dial up? How many of your friends have dial up? How many people in school these days actually have dial up? Broadband is in, dial-up and slow speeds are out. 4G/LTE/HSPA/whateveryouwanttocallit are all faster than dial-up.

How do they make money? You pay for a subscription per month... That's like asking how NetFlix makes money... NetFlix is an EXTREMELY profitable business. Have you seen the stock price? It's $238/share. Let's compare that to Intel, whose stock price is $20/share. We're not exactly comparing apples to apples here, but you get my point that NetFlix is no joke.

Why do they need a large company like Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft to back them? They need an investor to back them (which they probably have had a few already to get this far). Additionally, if they ever go to an investment bank, I'm sure they could go public after some success.

Think about the bigger picture, not just what's in front of you... People have broadband... xbox's/ps3's will become extinct... pc computing will still be expensive... and onlive will sneak into the competition below all those prices and offer sustainable graphics in the long term.

How many times have you been to an arcade and say, "damn, these graphics freaking blow, even nintendo 64 was better than this!" OnLIve could fix that... Graphics would never become obsolete.

Gosh, I sound like a freaking salesperson for OnLive, but I just see so much promise in the company (and no, I don't work for OnLive).
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I bet you the company goes out of business.

Its not a bad idea, but i dont see long term how they make money, or how they are able to guarentee the service. They need someone big like nintendo, sony, or microsoft to back the service
HTC invested 40 million in onlive in February. Onlive works quite well on the ipad minus the control layout. I think the masses especially on the mobile end are going to appreciate onlive more right now than say, the niche pc enthusiast crowd here with their high end rigs. But, things will eventually catch on I believe, and developers like EA / Activision are going to realize that they are missing a big segment of potential profits in the mobility segment. If millions of people are paying say, $5 to play metro 2033 for 5 days on their ipad...that translates into huge profits that even EA or Activision can't ignore. And with onlive's cloud patent, EA and Activision will eventually be forced to go this route as the extinction of "Gaming pc towers" and high end hardware on the consumer's end becomes more apparent.
    
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