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So, at work we have dells & macs. Most of these dells are out of warranty and need to be changed. They always used dell because they didn't have the people in place to build PCs, and now that I work there, I want to try them and see if they want to go custom.

We're talking about 7 PCs(out of 15ish). For quad-cores, dell charges an astounding 2k$ CDN for a E5620, 2.4GHZ, 4GB(4x1) of DDR3 ECC memory and the board that comes along with it, along with a quadro nvs 295, namely. Our heavy workers at work use Macs, and they use non-ECC, regular everyday iMacs(designers). The PCs are mainly for people that code, and use CS5 once in a while.

Now to prove a point, I was building a machine, ground up, has to be silent, no overclocking either and must meet the needs. What I had at the moment was:

i7-2600(not k obviously)
2x4GB DDR3
80GB X-25M SSD
500GB SATA drive
Some board(Not the cheapest but not the most expensive either)
and I was hesitating between a quadro and a regular graphics. Some of them will not be using CS5, so the graphic card is just a moot point, but everyone uses dual display so we have to take a graphic card regardless.
Win7 OEM
600W Corsair PSU(overkill I know)

and I was still under 1k.


What would you use for a graphic card, or what modification would you do to the build? I could go cheaper using AM3/i5/i7, but I'm mainly trying to prove a point by getting overkill.

Thank you.
    
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The thing about companies who buy their computers from dell yes they are overpaying, but the companies do like the warranties they provide to them mainly for the reason that if something goes wrong with the computer they can call dell send it in and fix the problem.

If a custom PC goes down you are down to component warranties which can sometimes be hard to keep track of and also the company will have to find out whats wrong with the computer first before they can send a certain part in or hire someone to do it for them.

(BTW I don't know what your job is but if it is a computer tech IT related then yes they are wasting their money because they already have someone to repair computers so an extensive warranty is not required.)
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Are you running dual IPS monitors? The iMac has a nice screen.

Besides that, the GPU is only really going to matter for Premier. As stated above, too, businesses pay a premium for the convenience of support. No business wants to get an IT person to troubleshoot basic issues with a custom machine when they could easily have a dell rep on site or ship it back under warranty.
    
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Quadro nvs 295? Mother of God...



What about a 560 Ti? Beyond that, and you're kinda overdoing it, even for what you propose.

EDIT: It's just shy of the big boys, on compute...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4135/n...-250-market/15
post #5 of 10
How much is the total without the graphic card?
post #6 of 10
Ask yourself what the GPU will be accelerating and if it is worth the cost.

A 5750 is the most powerful card a 27 inch iMac ships with, down to a 4670 256mb.
    
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@Bobicon: The thing is, more than half our machines should be changed, and we want to initiate a move that will make it so we change machines everytime they're off warranty to keep the stuff constantly up to date(we still have pentium 4's in here, I revolted!). The thing is, we definitely don't need ECC ram and server CPUs for the machines, and I know we're paying premium for that too in the quote my rep sent me.

I work as IT there(we're two), and I offered to take charge of hardware. We were thinking of buying a spare computer, as well, to give us time to troubleshoot issues if any(and at that price for premium computers, it's easy to have spares, hell, we accept the fact to have spare macs in the backstore incase one fails, I don't see any valid reason not to do the same with PCs). I am aware companies WANT the next day on-site warranty, but we used this once in the last 5 years, I heard, for all computers combined. If we had hundreds of PCs, I wouldn't consider it, but we don't.

@02: Most of them are dell dual screens, but the mac IPS monitors are amazing... too bad I can't have one at my station.

@Dorkseid: My thoughts exactly

EDIT: @02: True enough, if a 5750 does the trick of CS5 on the macs, I don't see why it wouldn't on a PC.

@Ubeer: Probably 800ish? Maybe 1k with taxes and such? I could be using integrated graphics but, it's not that much more expensive to add a PCI-E. Dual monitors is a must, not sure if you can do it on the SB integrated?
    
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4650s should be fine and cheap for office use. You guys aren't doing some silent gaming are you? Haha. I have no idea if you guys need that 2600 either. A 2500 is much cheaper.
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Oh I know, the only reason I'm getting a SSD, a 2600, etc, is to prove a point that we can get top of the line PC for half that price. Then from there I can decide if I want to give them 2500, a thuban, etc. It's just to prove a point, mainly.
    
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get a 5550
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