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I see you are using imageshack yes?

I'm posting on that site for my build as well. They have a very handy uploader app you can download and install. You drag all the files you want to upload into it, select any of them in the list, choose your resize option on the right side, and check the box that says resize all images.

A couple of clicks and you can upload and resize all your photos at once. It then opens a box with links to each pic so you can post them how you like. Works great for me!

Looking forward to the next update
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I see you are using imageshack yes?

I'm posting on that site for my build as well. They have a very handy uploader app you can download and install. You drag all the files you want to upload into it, select any of them in the list, choose your resize option on the right side, and check the box that says resize all images.

A couple of clicks and you can upload and resize all your photos at once. It then opens a box with links to each pic so you can post them how you like. Works great for me!

Looking forward to the next update
Perfect! Going to check that out now for a mini update
    
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Day 21-22 - 17-18Apr2011


This update is more of a mini-update... sorta I had a busy weekend and only had a few brief moments to snap shots and work with the case.

So while waiting for my vacation to come next week (when I will have time to complete the project) I decided to take a few minutes each night to do some small mockups inside my case so as I can get a better idea of how to do tube routing and cable management. Here are some pictures I took after I used painters tape to slap spare fans onto the internally mounted radiators.



The result was a major "DOH!" moment. Even with the awesomeness of this case I realized that either I would have to do some difficult tube routing or I would have to modify my plans.



As you can see from the above picture - once radiators and fans are installed the amount of wiggle room to access the wire management cutouts was gone. This picture is on the PSU side - as you can see the backpanel for the motherboard provides very little space between it and the fans. (Note this may be different with thinner radiators as I am using XSPC RX480's)

Below are a few more pictures from different angles and locations just to hammer the point home about the lack of space on the PSU side with roof mounted rads and fans once stuff is in place.





So I figured while I was at it I would take a couple of shots on the Motherboard side just to provide comparison and to assure that even though the PSU side lacked space - the case itself doesn't.

This first one is with the radiator mounted so that the fittings were to the back end of the case. This was so that I would have the necessary clearance to use a fan controller in the front top bay as witnessed by my previous pictures.



This next picture shows how much MORE space there is from the mounted radiator on the motherboard side.



A close up shot with the motherboard tray out for an even easier comparison.





Note how where the tray slides in at on the PSU side there is a lack of space - but it does not preclude cable or tube routing as it opens up to provide almost an inch of clearance once you route above the tray section. While on the motherboard side there is a healthy amount of clearance.



I did manage to test some 3/4" OD tubing to see if routing was possible and it was... it was merely a pain and I would think it should be a consideration of one has large hands. My hands although not dainty do not fall in the oversized category... and if I find maneuvering a pain it would likely be impossible for some folks...

After coming to the realization that I needed to sleep on this in order to figure out how I would plan out a better solution I woke up the next morning with a fresh perspective.

My 10 month old daughter while playing in the computer room brought this thought to my attention...



Daddy tested and kid approved! Oh...no that wasn't the idea...



She helped to point out the fact that I still had alot of clearance on top of the case!



She further pointed out that by mounting on top of the case I might sing out more room to mount my peripherals higher in the bay slots.

Armed with this knowledge and a . I set off on my new plan.



After confirmation from several Case Labs owners and from Jim at Case Labs I decided to order the extended top in order to mount my radiators above the case.

In order to do this I was warned I would need to cut out space for the radiator fittings and I saw the same done in various build logs so far. But I had a different idea. I ran back from the supply closet with some 3/4" velcro pads and placed them on the plastic fittings for my radiators. Then with the other part of the velcro pads sticky side facing down - I carefully aligned the radiator mount points underneath.



After doing so I was able to use the velcro pads as guidance points for where I would drill holes. Prior to drilling the holes I did verify a few times with measurements on the radiator and visual alignments.



End result were a pair of nicely bored holes (7/8" of an inch) so as the fittings could be routed back into the case with minimal cutting.





I then went about verifying the fit by mounting the radiators.









Since this was all done in my spare few minutes between getting home from work and my daughter getting home from the babysitter I will have to finish buffing down the burs in the bored holes and coloring the bare metal to a darker black later - I will likely also cut down the second bracket on the Fan controller now so as to provide cleaner routing for any fittings coming back into the case since I have changed the orientation of the radiator fittings and they will now come much closer to the fan controller (ugh... a potential nightmare situation if a leak were ever to occur lol)



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P.S. Even though the imageshack uploader does resize, I ended up using IRFANVIEW instead. It does batch resizing that allows it to maintain aspect ratio of the original shots as well as reduce the file size significantly better from my comparisons.
    
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I'm starting to notice the same issue on my build werds. I'm starting to mock things up myself and running into the same problem or bottom mounted fans on an RX rad blocks all the pass through holes in the center wall . . . but I have a plan!

Kind of ingenius using velcro to line up your holes that way. The holes look exactly perfectly sized and placed. Not trying to kill the magic but I'm curious if you got it right in a single try or had to make a few attempts at the hole size?

Keep up the good work so far. Pic size is much better now too btw!
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No magic killing - I was actually shocked that I got it right on the first go when drilling the holes - they are only about a mm off - but since I made sure to use the screw mount holes to line up where the velcro would stick down to I came very close. After they stuck down I then used a measuring tape to verify measurements from the edges. I then started the bore holes with the velcro there so that I could line up as close to center point as possible

And yes all the screw holes lined up properly thanks to them being slots on the roof mount and not just singular holes.

I am curious to see what your solution is!
Edited by werds - 4/19/11 at 7:18pm
    
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Day 24 - 20Apr2011


Coming up on almost a month since the start of my saga! Next week is big as it is Spring Break and I should be able to finally wrap this build up barring unforeseen issues. Today I got another delivery from Germany.

Since a week or so back I purchased a GTX480 for cheap I ended up pulling my wife's GTX480 out of her rig so that I could go SLI with them.. which required purchasing brand new blocks for them...first off - customs was a little rougher with this package than the last... .but I got a little surprise in the package- it came with a small backplate! although it is not a full cover backplate like EK uses I am guessing it is for added rigidity- but still looks rather nice and includes most all the mounting items needed.










Now I have to make sure I shake this cold before next week so I can spend quality time putting everything together

Also if I forgot to post - this was why I chose the Aquagrafx blocks! http://skinneelabs.com/gtx480-full-c...ock-roundup/5/

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Hello, being following the case lab threads for a while now, got a T10 myself... just wanted to ask, those PSU brackets , were they extras that you ordered with Jim ? Or did you make em. Great build btw.
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Hello, being following the case lab threads for a while now, got a T10 myself... just wanted to ask, those PSU brackets , were they extras that you ordered with Jim ? Or did you make em. Great build btw.
It was an extra ordered from Jim after I saw them in Juggalos build log.
    
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Gap Be Gone! - 27Apr2011


Well this update is just a quick one that I wanted to share - it is a minor modification I made to the case...

Word of advice - do NOT mod such a pretty case while sick and under the influence of medications or any impairing products. My judgement was sorely lacking during this process from being sick and medicated...and starting off with the fact that I am fairly amateur as it is... caused me to mangle the case slightly

That said I give you GAP BE GONE!



One of the minor complaints many people give about the Case Labs case is that small gap at the end of the motherboard tray. For me it was no big issue UNTIL I ordered an H series case. Which meant I would have an HPTX size tray and only an ATX sized mobo to place on it. This would leave a lot of territory rather barren and served to only accentuate the gap as well as leave a large portion of the window looking at a semi-empty motherboard tray.

While looking at Juggalo's build log I started thinking about how I might be able to hide that gap if at all possible...

Then I ran across PulkPull's two Black Water Build logs. Black Water I and Black Water II. There is where I thought I found my solution!

His unique and understated method of mounting his external radiator made me think I could use the same method to mount a plate inside the case to hide the gap. He was nice enough to share the information on what materials he used and I promised I would credit him in my build log as I felt it would be unfair to take credit for the idea itself.

When I ordered my case I had asked Jim from Case Labs if he could send me an already painted plate along with the case and explained to him the general idea of what I had planned. He was generous enough to oblige... and quite remarkably the plate he sent was almost the PERFECT size in both width and length as well as providing pre-drilled holes! Whether this was because he understood exactly what I was aiming to do and measured it out for me or by pure luck I will have to find out from Jim lol.

Now that I have bored you to death here are a few pictures to show the end result... complete with the mangling - as once again I should have left this mod until I was in my right mind heh.

Here is the plate mounted- notice it leaves enough room from the edge of the motherboard to easily manipulate wires attaching to the edge of an ATX board. It also blends in with the case quite nicely and will provide me an extra place in which to hide incoming and outgoing wires and tubes to some degree.



Having move the radiators to the extended top also opened up alot of the space inside the case for when I install the fans and all the wires and watercooling tubes.



Here is another angle of the plate itself so you can see that it provides clearance from the tray and the backwall itself.



Here is a shot from the front of the case inward.



Here I slide the motherboard tray out slightly so I could take a straight on from the rear shot. I have more clearance available if I wanted to extend the screw length to accomodate. But I chose a 1 inch gap so as to provide space to allow tubes to go through unhindered but leaving the plate close enough to the backwall that it blended in more than it stood out.



Here is a shot from the PSU side and you can see where I ended up mangling the case.



Originally it was supposed to be a safe and simple "just drill holes and mount" type of job... but being under the influence of medication at the time this mod occurred, I failed to measure and verify from multiple angles (mind you I spent a few moments during this process trying to remember where I had even put tools that I had sitting right next to me heh). Because of poor planning on my part I had to take a dremel to part of the lip nearest the gap side of the case.



This is the portion where the mangling most stands out because I lacked the proper precision tools, didn't pre-plan it well enough, and was medicated at the time... I still have to go back in and cut out a little more metal to make the washers and nuts fit properly on the backside and I will fill the mangled parts with some black paint when all is done...

This below shot shows the nut and washer I am using on the backside in order to hold it on and to spread some of the pressure that might be applied when I later mount or attempt to mount items on the plate side.





The items I ended up using listed below.
  1. Aluminum plate pre-painted (provided by Jim at Case Labs)
  2. Black Oxide Hex Socket Head Cap Screw 6-32 x 1 1/2" length (I chose socket cap for appearance on the plated side)
  3. Black-Oxide 18-8 Stainless Steel Machine Screw Hex Nut, 6-32 Thread Size, 5/16" Width, 7/64" Height P/N: 96537A130
  4. Black-Oxide 18-8 Stainless Steel Flat Washer, No. 6 Screw Size, 3/8" OD, .02"-.04" Thick
  5. Black-Finish Aluminum Unthreaded Spacer, 1/4" OD, 1" Length, #6 Screw Size, .140" ID

I threaded everything in the following order Hex Socket Screw > Washer > Aluminum Plate > 1" aluminum spacer> Hex nut > Backwall with drilled holes > Washer > Hex Nut.



I could probably throw in another washer in there somewhere just for overkill but meh

Now the gap is gone from direct view and once I get more time and less medication in me I will look at possibly mounting my reservoir on the plate and pumps on that side now

Also here are a few shots showing the clearance with graphics card (something that should be accounted for when and if you do this mod). I am going to have SLI GTX 480's under waterblocks. The measure in at 10.5 inches. Any graphics card longer than that would require you adjust the location of the mounting plate or not mounting a plate at all!







Now if Case Labs had pre-drilled holes (6 different ones possibly?) to provide for different sized plates or mounting further left or where currently is. I think it would offer a nice option to whether people would want to mount or not - and not leave it in the hands of goofballs like me hehehe.

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I don't really understand what's so bad about the gap... now there's a metal plate? Can't you just have put a reservoir there or something.
Edited by catcherintherye - 4/27/11 at 9:17pm
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