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Sorry I just have seen a lot of people scratching their heads when they get it mixed up with EK parts in the WC section. I'm glad you've got it correct though, I wouldn't want anything slowing this rig down!
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Sorry I just have seen a lot of people scratching their heads when they get it mixed up with EK parts in the WC section. I'm glad you've got it correct though, I wouldn't want anything slowing this rig down!
It's alright! Always good to double check. Plus I just got an email notice that Fedex delivered my pumps and PSU cables today! Looks like I should be doing some leak testing tonite and hopefully have rig up and Folding by Sunday
    
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It's alright! Always good to double check. Plus I just got an email notice that Fedex delivered my pumps and PSU cables today! Looks like I should be doing some leak testing tonite and hopefully have rig up and Folding by Sunday
I'm hoping to have my project back from FannBlade next week too, I'm folding on the 'bench' (see: Cardboard boxes) right now though
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I'm hoping to have my project back from FannBlade next week too, I'm folding on the 'bench' (see: Cardboard boxes) right now though
Lucky, I have no space in my house for a workbench Wife would kill me if I made space for one lol.

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Leak testing the loop! - 08May2011



Well leak testing the loop overnight and hopefully bleeding the air out of it
it took a little over a half gallon of water so far...hopefully only a minor top off in the morning and then I can get around to actually firing this sucker up and then complain about having to unhook the motherboard later next week to install new motherboard processor and tubes!

Pardon the crappy photos - they were taken with a camera-phone


Here is my ghetto leak test setup with a PSU I snagged out of a PC that was being trashed at work



And YES I realize the reservoir was mounted crooked - didn't notice it till I took this shot... thankfully I used dual lock strips so resetting the mount point should be trivial - pardon the mess, decided not to do wire management until I have the loop complete and leak tested lol... aka prioritizing!





Notice though how with the radiators mounted in the extended top and the fans installed there is now plenty of room to maneuver around the wire management and tube management holes and locations

For fan installation I ended up using 6-32 screws that were 1 1/4" length with some machine nuts on the other side to hold things in place. I figured it was simpler than re-drilling holes for fan screws instead. (the mechanical nuts I used were too big to fit inside the AP-15 frames as they have a small spot for them but still all worked out decently)

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Great build Werds! I'm in a similar boat. These cases are so well thought out and have tooooo many options for cabling and tubing that I spent more time trying different combinations then building it out so far!

Outstanding build log , cant wait to see it all wrapped up, you have about a week lead time on me for completion! lol
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Great build Werds! I'm in a similar boat. These cases are so well thought out and have tooooo many options for cabling and tubing that I spent more time trying different combinations then building it out so far!

Outstanding build log , cant wait to see it all wrapped up, you have about a week lead time on me for completion! lol
Thanks, its small potatoes next to your build log but am happy to know that this build log is helpful in some manner to someone out there somewhere



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The lights are on but nobodies home! - 09May2011



Well as always the build log continues - just when I thought I was another step closer to wrapping this up it throws another wrinkle at me!

Finished successfully leak testing by running just one pump overnight - and in the process had to refill the reservoir 3 separate times. Then when I started up the second pump I had to top it off 2 more times after that! So bleeding this loop is not an easy task and next time I think I may take some more time to figure out a way to add a bleed valve into the loop.

Also came to the decision that due to the current location of the reservoir my fillport location and idea would not work too well, even if I decided to run a permanent tube. The location of the fillport though would have been far better if I had chosen to mount the reservoir either much closer to the floor of the case or if I had mounted it on the PSU side. Or it would have worked better if I had chosen a taller case.

So I took the time last night to plug up all the wiring and cables and run a few zipties to slightly tidy things up in hopes of firing up the monster and loading windows...

Few things I learned in the process - with the amount of watercooling and items I crammed onto the motherboard side next time I will plug in all my sata cables and power cables BEFORE sliding in the motherboard tray and prior to running hose. So in the future with a case like this I would do wire management or some slight wire management first. Why? It was a small struggle maneuvering power plugs and sata cables into place with all the watercooling gear in the way and with few options to actually move them. I was saved by the fact that I did provide myself a little bit of slack while running the tubing and that I used rotary snakes and rotary fittings in various locations of the loop.

Now on to the pictures!


So when we last left off I had mounted the reservoir slightly crooked and I had fan tails hanging everywhere on the motherboard side.



Thankfully I had used some 3M dual lock strips to do the reservoir mounting instead of drilling and screws. So it was as easy as pulling the strips up and re-applying. So after running all of the pertinent wires and resetting the reservoir here is the motherboard side. One thing you may notice is that I had to flip the hard drive cage to the other side due to the orientation of the sata power cables.



Now since I am using a 6 channel fan controller I used several 4way fan tail splitters to combine the regular fan tails into on - this makes replacing fans or selling them later on easier than if I was to have soldered them together. Also less work for me

As you can tell from the motherboard side picture I ran all of the motherboard side fantails back across into the PSU side. I figured that side would not be windowed and keeping a rats nest on that side would be "cleaner" and easier to hide. So after a few zipties and running the combined tails back up to the fan controller this is the PSU side of things.



For the most part I used the zipties to bundle the larger portions of wires and fan splitter cables. There are a few loose fantails at the top portion for the moment where I may screw a cable saddle to manage them a bit more - but for the most part I am content with most of the cables being well managed with minimal effort! The hardest part was thinking through which cables to run through which holes in what order so that ziptieing them could be done methodically.

Now I had also purchased a horizontal 480mm radiator accessory mount.Although I could mount a radiator of several sizes on here- this was never my intention. One of the issues with the MH10 is that because of it's reduced height it also has reduced fan mount points. If you notice the motherboard and PSU side would only provide 3 intake fans apiece while the radiators would be exhausting with 4 fans each! So I decided I would counterbalance by mounting 4 fans as intake using the radiator accessory bar. This way the radiator on the PSU side would be well fed and with 7 fans intaking on the PSU side, I hoped some of that fresh air would force its way onto the motherboard side as well. Unfortunately the best laid plans can easily be thrown to the side. Instead of 7 intake on the PSU side I had to opt for 6 intake on the PSU side. The reason being was that the radiator mount bar could not be mounted without removing one of the front intake fans. See the pictures below to explain the clearance issue.





So after removing the fan and installing the radiator mount this is how it looks...and yes there is another rats nest there but that one will have to wait for later to be cleaned up as I had to hurry up to fire this rig up before it was too late at night!



The front side doesn't look as pretty with only 4 intake fans...



Here is an angled shot from the backside. Notice how through the mesh on the panel you can now see the 4 fans intaking as well as the PSU setup to intake then exhaust out the rear.





Now I had almost forgotten that I chose an XL window in Amber color to match my orange in color Acer G24 monitor. But I like the look of the gear through that amber color







My favorite part is that because I was able to mount the reservoir on the motherboard side, I end up not having the left 1/3rd of the window being barren or just cables. the reservoir and pump fill it nicely!



But as I mentioned earlier - the saga found a way to extend itself. I plugged the PSU into the wall and was met with shining lights on the motherboard. So I went to hit the power switch, the fans started spinning up and then nothing... I mean NOTHING! The fans stopped spinning shortly after initial spin and the lights just sat there mocking me...



After some troubleshooting I ended up pulling the PSU from my currently working rig to see if it was user error while wiring and setting things up. With the different PSU plugged in everything came to life and booted up. But since it is not a permanent solution I stopped after verification aka the bios screen lol. From here I am now waiting on some spare cables and another PSU of that same model to find out where the culprit is - but currently it is PSU related...

And the lights continue to mock me until then...





Side note - the XSPC radiators must use some pretty bad paintjob Why do I say this? I had used painters tape to cover and preotect the fins from any debris during the mock up cycles. Unfortunately when removing the painters tape, some patches of pain still came up with the tape


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hehe another fellow aussie , I should hook you up with some of my sponsors
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Impressive work. Keep it up!
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Yo werds, you're almost there! It is looking pretty good so far.

I couldn't tell from your description - when you plugged in a different PSU, did you use the same cables modular cables you are using now or did you use a different brick and cables?

If you used different cables also, then . . . trying to be constructive and not critical here . . . but could the PSU issue be self inflicted? You sleeved all the wiring so I wonder if a couple pins may have been swapped in error or a connection / pin pulled loose?
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Unfortunately when removing the painters tape, some patches of pain still came up with the tape
Patches of pain, man that must suck.

Anyways, really impressive another MH10 monster that no matter if it's water cooled, after market HSF or stock cooling it still manages to look amazing inside and out. Good luck getting a new psu.
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