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Eventually that all gets old, real old. Especially when you decide to clean out your system and set it up again. It could take me hours to get a system where I want it, where as I know it can be done in debian within 1 1/2 hours (or less). Quick, simple, working system with the same speed advantages.

Arch could do the whole "it works" thing while still keeping their vanilla code. They use different init scripts and don't modify the code as much keeping it more vanilla/pure. It would still be just as fast, they don't because they choose not too.
That depends on the person and the system - I like knowing *exactly* what is running on my system and having full control over it. Arch does nothing for you - which means you know nothing has been done.

Yeah, it means more work, but if it's what you want, it's there for you. If not, then yeah, other distros suit your needs better.
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That depends on the person and the system - I like knowing *exactly* what is running on my system and having full control over it. Arch does nothing for you - which means you know nothing has been done.

Yeah, it means more work, but if it's what you want, it's there for you. If not, then yeah, other distros suit your needs better.
No distro adds or removes something without you knowing. At least, none of mine have. So I know exactly what is on the system, what libraries are on the system, what services are being run. It's still a pain to set up, especially when you get the same system and software (more or less). The only difference is Debian patches it's software a lot, though Debian patches are clean and stable. Debian based distro's tend to have ugly patches done, mainly because they are rushed more than Debian itself.
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No distro adds or removes something without you knowing. At least, none of mine have. So I know exactly what is on the system, what libraries are on the system, what services are being run. It's still a pain to set up, especially when you get the same system and software (more or less). The only difference is Debian patches it's software a lot, though Debian patches are clean and stable. Debian based distro's tend to have ugly patches done, mainly because they are rushed more than Debian itself.
That's simply not true - packages in most distros will change your configuration all of the time. Arch packages don't. If you install a new version of something, or a new package, in most distros, configurations will change, under Arch, it doesn't. It means you have to update everything manually, but also, you know what is there.
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lol I guess I'm too used to synaptic then and just assumed other pakage managers did the same. It asks what you want to do with configuration files if they changed, it won't change or update anything without you knowing.
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