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But why the hell does distro's like Fedora and Arch Linux have to adopt it so early? There are virtually no GTK3 themes out (other than egtk and atolm) and the dev's have created a bunch of loose ends (like gnome-session startup).
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But why the hell does distro's like Fedora and Arch Linux have to adopt it so early? There are virtually no GTK3 themes out (other than egtk and atolm) and the dev's have created a bunch of loose ends (like gnome-session startup).
Both of these, by design, choose to use the latest available software for their distros, for better or worse. I understand the motivation; having early access to software is quite useful, and I certainly like having stuff as soon as possible. That said, I'm still skipping GNOME 3 (not to mention Unity/Ubuntu 11.04 which is almost as much of a nightmare).
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You can still download Metacity under Arch. Not sure if this would actually work, should do (you should be able to swap the window manager out, just like you would with Compiz). Brave man that takes this on though!
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Don't bother. Fallback mode is crap too.


I suppose I should have seen this coming, when they mangled GDM in 2.28. (Instead of using a nice utility to theme GDM they removed 90% of the functionality and made it so you had to log in as GDM and set the appearance, just like you would a normal user)

They've basically done the same thing, only this time with the whole system. Nothing but reduced functionality and extra work. Just like with GDM they've removed utilities without replacing them. You can't even properly theme it or adjust the panels.

Gnome is supposed to be simple, efficient, and clean. Gnome 3.0 is none of those. In fact, its more of a complete failure than KDE 4.0, which at least had some direction, and some hope of bug fixes. Gnome 3.0 isn't buggy, its just bad. I can see now why Ubuntu went ahead with Unity, because even Unity is an improvement.


I think I'm going to switch over to KDE. I could keep using Gnome 2, but the Gnome project clearly has no future, so its better if I just get used to KDE now.
I was prepared to give Gnome shell a chance, but it wouldn't run on both my laptop and desktop (I can understand the triple monitor desktop setup, but the laptop should have worked).

In the end, I switched to KDE, the most recent version is a lot better than it used to be, and I'm pretty happy using it.
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I'm using KDE now too. I tried Xfce, but its just too... amateur. Its nice an lightweight, but quality wise it feels like an alpha. Too many things are missing or broken.


Currently trying to fix the lag and responsiveness. It takes as long to go from grub to KDM as it does to go from KDM to KDE right now.
    
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gnome shell...its garbage imho!

they changed way to much, its buggy as hell, would make great for a touchscreen interface, but a mouse made me feel like trying to play a rts with a controller!

its nothing like when kde 4 came out, i hear a lot of keep comparing it to that...at least kde 4, is a more traditional desktop for a desktop computer, gnome shell is not...

reminded me a lot of android and ios ui...something i barely can navigate cause its not very "user friendly" imho.
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Both of these, by design, choose to use the latest available software for their distros, for better or worse. I understand the motivation; having early access to software is quite useful, and I certainly like having stuff as soon as possible. That said, I'm still skipping GNOME 3 (not to mention Unity/Ubuntu 11.04 which is almost as much of a nightmare).
Does that mean that Fedora 15 is going to use GNOME 3?

How about CentOS? Since it's geared toward enterprise/servers, do you think they'll keep it with GNOME 2?
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Does that mean that Fedora 15 is going to use GNOME 3?

How about CentOS? Since it's geared toward enterprise/servers, do you think they'll keep it with GNOME 2?
Fedora 15 already includes GNOME 3. It works about as well as in any other distro, only Fedora was nice enough to put some hints in the release notes.

CentOS strictly follows Red Hat Enterprise, which is on GNOME 2 and will remain so for the foreseeable future.
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I'm running Arch with GNOME 3 on both my netbook and my desktop and I've found it great so far. I've not noticed any bugs or other issues at all.

Maybe I'm just less fussy than some of the more experienced Linux users?
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Don't entirely understand why a server isn't CLI only (or at least something lightweight like JWM)
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