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I'm fully aware of the vrm problem, but modest clocks @ stock voltages, in my mind, don't present any major problems.

There are several people on this forum with heavily oc'ed 570s without any problems. There are even more people with stock/modestly clocked 570's with zero problems.

Yes, some people have lost their cards, but 95% were due to pretty extreme conditions(pushing the vrms).

Aside from the centralized VRM problem, cards do die. No electronic component will last forever, and none will be perfect.
+1, yup exactly correct. These are issues on OCN where people pushed their cards beyond with voltage tweaks. It's not happening to normal overclocks. It's very common on this site for those who play to hard with their cards. Nvidia or AMD. There is a lot of AMD cards that artificat as well by users taking it that extra step where they should of stopped. Dosen't mean all AMD cards artificat. LOL.
     
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I would have to say the AMD Radeon HD 6950 with a core unclock. It offers you the performance of a better card. Man, it finally feels perfectly fine not to say ATI.
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Maybe this helps. I've traded my GTX 570 to 6950 Twin Frozr III. I haven't unlock it because of lack of time, but I will do this as soon as possible. 6950 is almost the same performance as GTX 570. As far as I know GTX 570 likes to burning their vrams after OC. Also If You'll flash 6950 to 6970 You'll get something that can beat GTX 570 easily. One minus to 6950 is that they don't have PhysX just like Nvidia has.
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As for the posters question. If you can unlock the AMD 6950 that's a great over clock. Will shorten the life span but who keeps their cards for more than a couple years anyway on this site. LOL.

Though you can over clock the GTX 570 even beyond the GTX 6970 performance it's minimal and that $100 can serve you well for an SSD. So go with AMD 6950.
     
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As for the posters question. If you can unlock the AMD 6950 that's a great over clock. Will shorten the life span but who keeps their cards for more than a couple years anyway on this site. LOL.
Shorter lifespan shouldn't be something to worry about - I have just the shader flashed on my card so there are no increased vram voltages/tighter timings, but even running it at 940/1350 the core temps never exceed ~62 degrees C.

Add to that the 2d clocks,voltages and temperatures are substantially lower, too.
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I think most of the people on OCN saw the Tom's Hardware comparison between the 6950 tri-fire vs 570 tri-sli. The 6950 won in most games. The performance jump from 1 to 2 cards for AMD was the bomb. For both card makers, the 3rd card wasn't really worth it.
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Set up a poll mate, but I would go for the 6950 option if it means I could get a SSD too
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My vote's for the 6950. I'm a cheap kid but why spend $100 more for similar performance or PhysX if you don't need it?
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My vote's for the 6950. I'm a cheap kid but why spend $100 more for similar performance or PhysX if you don't need it?
Fully agreed with this. If You want PhysX just buy a Nvidia card for 30$ and here You go It's not worth to spend another 100$ for GTX 570, for similar performance.
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im gonna go 6950 unlocked to 6970, since i really do want that ssd. Im gonna go do it tommorow thanx for all your help guys. i might just grab a second 6950 right there although i doubt ill see a performance increase as im just running one 1080p monitor atm

EDIT:Will this one work http://www.frys.com/product/6559683?...:MAIN_RSLT_PG( MSI twin frozr i heard you need a reference but i heard the cooling on these are really good / only one in stock )or Do i need a specific version of it to unlock it to a 6970. (if possible can some one link me one in a retail shop possible(microcenter or something) (texas)
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