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Hi guys, while i was working on my system, i noticed that my OCz Rally 2 USB ran faster on its native USB 2.0 than the USB 3.0 i had on the rear I/O, now i was wondering if the same thing would affect my HDD, im using a WD caviar black 500GB SATA 3Gb /s drive, (Yeh i know.. i cheaped out) BUT i have it plugged into a SATA 6Gb/s port, running under a Marvell chipset. Would my drive perform faster on its native SATA 3Gb/s port?

Also it was my understanding from various sources that regular 7200 RPM SATA drive can't even use up the enitre bandwidth of SATA 3Gb/s yet. so theoretically, if i go with the native chipset of the P55 platform i Could skip on the Marvell controller loading during boot, and save some time, AND gain performance?
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I believe if you have a sata 3Gb/s drive plugged into a 6Gb/s slot, the speed is the same as in a 3Gb/s slot. You could always benchmark it to see though?
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Only 1 way to find out.... Have you bench marked it?
I would suggest doing so then swapping then running the benchmark again.
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Originally Posted by derickwm;12910314 
I believe if you have a sata 3Gb/s drive plugged into a 6Gb/s slot, the speed is the same as in a 3Gb/s slot. You could always benchmark it to see though?

right, but i leave the system on pretty much 24/7 so this will be new to me this "shutting down" biggrin.gif

EDIT:
Ill bench tomorrow when i have time, ill restart the system, and run CrystalDiskMark right after its finished loading everything, on SATA 6Gb/s and SATA 3Gb/s
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pentium4 531 overclocker;12910338 
right, but i leave the system on pretty much 24/7 so this will be new to me this "shutting down" biggrin.gif

Understandable typer.gif
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A hard drive has no chance of saturating the SATA 2 controller let alone SATA 3, so as a general rule it shouldn't have an effect on the speed of the drive.

What will have an effect is the speed of the controller interface, and there the intel chipset will always be faster, latency wise, than a marvel controller that has to work through said chipset.
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Originally Posted by Firehawk;12910444 
A hard drive has no chance of saturating the SATA 2 controller let alone SATA 3, so as a general rule it shouldn't have an effect on the speed of the drive.

What will have an effect is the speed of the controller interface, and there the intel chipset will always be faster, latency wise, than a marvel controller that has to work through said chipset.

thats what i was thinking anyways i ran the tests and you guys wouldnt belive what i got! tongue.gif
    
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[Just to keep things organized im putting into a separate post]
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SATA 6Gb/s VS SATA 3Gb/s

Hardware Benching:

-Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 7200RPM HDD
-Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA 3Gb/s 7200RPM HDD

TEST BENCH IN SIG:

Speeds Testing:
-True SATA 6GB/s [Marvell controller]
-SATA 3Gb/s [Intel P55 Native Chipset]

TESTS PERFORMED WITH THEIR DESIGNATED SATA CABLES
(although they are both identical >.<)

Results are in pictures:
PIC 1 = SATA 3Gb/s Caviar Green
PIC 2 = SATA 3GB/s Caviar Black
PIC 3 = SATA 6Gb/s Caviar Green
PIC 4 = SATA 6Gb/s Caviar Black

SATA3GBsTESTWDCAVIARGREEN1TBSATA3Gbs.jpg
SATA3GbsTESTWDCAVIARBLACK500GBSATA3Gbs.jpg
SATA6GbsTESTWDCAVIARGREEN15Gbs.jpg
SATA6GbsTESTWDCAVIARBLACK500GBSATA3Gbs.jpg
_______________________________________
Explaination?

The Caviar Green Probably Out performs the Caviar Black because of the higher disk density, so 500 GB would only be half the platter, while in the Caviar Black, the density is lower, and the further the head gets from the platter the slower it gets.

Also, SATA 6Gb/s runs off of a 3rd party Chipset, and therefor SATA 3Gb/s ports have faster latencys.

[THESE ARE MY GUESSES CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG
    
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Yeah, I'm going to say that it's the Marvell controller's fault. If the SATA III controller was built into the chipset, it'd probably get speeds closer to the original.
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Mhmm, and the drives perform miraculously better on SATA 3Gb/s than 6Gb/s =P this means, i can disable my Marvel controller and SAVE BOOT TIME!!! =D but now i have to rewire my Rig... >.< i guess ill leave that till the weekend when im off of such a big school load =P
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