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post #11 of 28
Hey Balla,
I know that you had a 1090 + "dont remember the mobo" combo before, but since SB came out, you try to show us how good is(I can say you're a intel fanboy now - no offense here)
Lets say, ... the Bulldozer will outperform SB..., you'll go back to AMD, or...

I was an Intel fan before, paid $1000 for CPUs, but I just get tired(angry) about ... "new cpu --> new socket --> new mobo --> no compatibility at all" things (more $$$ for Intel, they know how to f...k their fans)
So, I dont care how good Intel is... AMD is #1 for me

This thread is in a wrong place. Needs moving ... "General CPU disscusion" , or somewere else
Edited by IOSEFINI - 3/29/11 at 7:01am
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You think so? I thought because it was specifically talking about AMD cpus that this was the place for it.

Name calling stopped affected me when I was 6, so it's not really a big deal. When I had my AMD chips I was a price vs performance guy. Now that I have a Intel chip I'm still a price vs performance guy. You'll notice I didn't buy a i7, and I didn't buy a ultra high end board. I bought mid level $200ish products across the board. I'm not a big spender but I do want to get the most out of everything I buy.

You call me a fanboy because I wanted more gpu power, but knew I would be cpu bound is most titles. I'd call anyone not upgrading their cpu to something that can push their graphics card an idiot, but to each their own.

I have no loyalty either way, whoever can get me the best product for a reasonable price gets my dollar. Anyone doing it anyway else is a fanboy, check the mirror you may be one.

If I had a 5770 I'd be happy with a x6, upgrading to sandy bridge would do nothing for me. I don't have a 5770 though, I don't see why you're so upset about me not wanting to spend $500 on gpus and getting less than $300 worth of performance out of them. Once again I question who really is the fanboy.


Edit: It's not like I didn't give AMD every chance before going SLI and switching to SB.


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I got this for you JE, just a suicide.

Working on 4.4Ghz 24/7 and needed to change a few settings so I grabbed this for you.



http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1535721

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Same info as #87, however different cpu.



Will try for more once I put together a water loop.

Edited by BallaTheFeared - 3/29/11 at 7:45am
    
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mine scales just fine balla..my two cards were under 400 bucks...and i can pull 125 to 150+ frames in battlefield 2...everything maxed out on high and anti aliasing at 24x. resoultion at 1920x1080 =) gpu usuage at 99 percent. i think amd setup scales better with amd gpu...i could be wrong. for amd cards...just remember to install the crossfire x profiles.
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I'm the AMD guy in the OP comparison. I think a lot of people are being confused by the word "bottleneck" as it implies to me and artificial limitation. I think it's better to simply say that the Intel chips are faster than AMD. We all know that anyways, and leaves no room for misunderstanding.

The crosshair IV is IMO the best AMD motherboard out there. If you want the most from your x6, you need the best board. But at only $225 it is a far better deal than most Intel chipset boards with similar features. Speaking of features, 890FX has more Sata 6 and pci express lanes than any Intel board I've seen near it's price.

That doesn't mean much though when you really only need x8 slots for full speed.

For me, if Bulldozer is = or better than Intel, I'll buy it. If not, I'll switch.

Simple really.

But just to clarify: if I get 150 FPS in BFBC2 and you get 200, does it really matter?
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Nice comparison ...
I think that you are building a machine for benchmarking, the intel will really stand out ...

Other than than, for playing games, we reach a "level" in performance where "enough is enough" you know.

Anything above stable 60fps won't really affect anyone using a 60mhz monitor.

Of course, it will make you feel better to know that you have the power under the hood ...

I'm really looking forward the Bulldozer ... i've been with Intel enough time. Want to try out the green side and i hope bull will be enough to do the change. If it compares to SB ... than it's a "OK to GO" for me ...

I just changed from Nvidia to AMD. I had a GTX590 that i returned to the store and got 2 Sapphire 6970's ...

So... in a week or so i can do a test with a i7 920 so we can check the performance between the 1090T and the 920 ( i'm running mine at 4.5 but i will downclock it to 4.2 to match gsa700's frequency ) ... i think that will be a more consensual and objective experience since the Sandybridge is way faster for games than even the x58 i7 ... i mean ... at least on synthetic benching ... and then we can do some comparing with SB, x58 and 1090T ...

My guess is

SB > i7 > 1090T ... just because i'm running HT ...
Games really prefer high performing cores than high performing hyper threading ... And clock for clock, SB cores are more powerful than both i7 920 and 1090T ...

And, plus ... a less performing CPU will always bottleneck the gpu's ... even on gpu only testing.

When reviewing a GTX580 Direct CU2 in SLi, we were using an Xeon W3520 at 4.2Ghz and we were scoring 44k on the GPU department ... after we changed the bench table to a SB 2600k at 4.7Ghz ... the gpu scores ramped to 47k! ...
Edited by Pedros - 3/30/11 at 4:20am
post #16 of 28
5217 MHz vs 4304 MHz
9943 vs 9474

I wonder what score you'd get if you also were at 4304 mhz. And what about at 1080p ?
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Balla, is it possible that all the other variables in the systems make this comparison invalid? Just like an old post of yours I was just reading comparing your own 1090T to your SB... Maybe the problem was that you ran DDR2 with the 1090T and a really high end set of DDR3 with the SB?

I already know that even in more fair comparisons with identical systems that the i5-2500k will outperform the 1090T in benchmarks. Don't forget this is Intels latest architecture vs 3-year old AMD architecture so it should be expected. I don't think that there's enough information here to call the AMD chip a "bottleneck" for any particular GPU though. There are just too many other variables involved.

As far as price, there's more to it then just initial cost. Did you hear that I'm going to be able to drop Bulldozer into my current motherboard? =P
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5217 MHz vs 4304 MHz
9943 vs 9474

I wonder what score you'd get if you also were at 4304 mhz. And what about at 1080p ?
Another CRITICAL variable. lol
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post gaming results only, no on cares about benchmarks.
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As far as price, there's more to it then just initial cost. Did you hear that I'm going to be able to drop Bulldozer into my current motherboard? =P
Lol, just like i'm using an am3 on a am2+ mobo You can't beat AMD in any scaling
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