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There may not be much room for a fan controller in the system unless I do something up custom. I don't think there will be room for a 5.25" one in the open bay where the tubing from the res will connect to the rad. And I have plans to use all four of the externally accessible 3.5" bays for HDD's. The 12 1850rpm fans will most likely be running 100% all the time for the rads though, so they wouldn't need a controller.
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Also wondering how I would setup this loop for easy bleeding. If I stuck a T-line in between 11 and 12 on the last picture I posted and fed the T portion down to the bottom of the case with a hole or something and a plug would I be able to just unplug it over a sink/tub and let it drain itself?
Yep, that would work.

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In addition, does tubing size really matter? I was thinking 1/2" ID and 3/4" OD and compression fittings to go with. Looking for a tubing brand that isn't plastered with logos and brand-names, suggestions? I love the look of compression fittings and the fact that they provide a very secure connection.
There is not much performance difference between the tubing sizes according to a test report on XtemeSystems, pick the size that you like the looks of.

Compression fittings are no more or less secure than barbs and clamps if both are done right, but they do give a clean look if you can afford them.

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Here's the list of components I'm thinking of grabbing from Frozen CPU when the time comes:
Looks good. You will only need 2 packs of tubing, 5M (16') is enough for your loop. That said it is fairly cheap and always better to have spare than to run out.

Good luck finding the Scythe GTs in stock but keep looking as they are well worth it. If you need a fan to keep you going whilst waiting have a look at the Yate Loons, they are cheap and effective.
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Good luck finding the Scythe GTs in stock but keep looking as they are well worth it.
What's the deal with these btw? Everywhere I look they seem to be out of stock like you've said. My local PC parts wholesaler has them listed as out of stock as well, but they will order things in for me if I ask.

Is Scythe the one to blame? Are they not making enough of them or something? If they're just popular and go fairly quickly then my local retailer should be able to get some in no problem (and at $14.99 CAD I might add).
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What's the deal with these btw? Everywhere I look they seem to be out of stock like you've said. My local PC parts wholesaler has them listed as out of stock as well, but they will order things in for me if I ask.

Is Scythe the one to blame? Are they not making enough of them or something? If they're just popular and go fairly quickly then my local retailer should be able to get some in no problem (and at $14.99 CAD I might add).
They are just such a popular fan they get bought out almost instantly. A lot builds where you will see them order 15 of these fans at a time they just are that great of a performer for their price.
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They are just such a popular fan they get bought out almost instantly. A lot builds where you will see them order 15 of these fans at a time they just are that great of a performer for their price.
This.

Plus they are not really meant for consumer PCs, they were more designed for server type applications (Nidec Servo make them for Scythe). This probably screws around with the production numbers as the two markets are fairly dissimilar.
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Alright, I'll contact the local guys and see if they can order some in. I'll be needing 12 just for the rads and I might as well replace all the other fans in the case with them as well. So for the Obsidian 800D I think that's two for the HDD cages, then maybe two more for the back-side of the HDD cages as well... Guess I'll order 18 for now to be on the safe side lol.

On the subject of fan controllers, I could theoretically link the 8 fans for the top rad onto one controller switch, then the four on the rear radiator to another controller switch, and then the remaining fans in the case to the remaining switches on the controller right? As in, one switch controls the speed of all 8 fans on the top, one controls the 4 on the rear, one controls the others in the case, etc... Can anyone suggest some that are fairly low-profile when it comes to taking up space?
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imo the way u have the top radiator and the fans will not allow you to route your tubing right.

the fan that is closest to the fittings on the top rad will block the necessary curves your tubing would have to make to fit there. it will also have a high chance of blocking the angled fittings that will be put on it...unless u do some crazy snake curved fitting combo.

if you move the rad to the other direction, it will clean up the curves the tubing would have to make once it leaves the res, but the fan and fitting problems would still be there.


eDIT: also, on your comment about 90 degree fittings. it will double the restriction of a 45degree fitting...duh =), BUT, read what i say carefully, it's negligible. testing was done by Martin and proves that you shouldnt worry about how many angled fittings you have. just do what you do to have a clean looking and kink free loop...it will add restriction, but temps wont rise to where it will be a problem. I dont suspect youll need that many 90 degrees anyways.
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When it comes to top rad as intake or exhaust i will have to disagree with GingerJohn, at least that was the case here.

I previously had my top 360 rad as exhaust and switched it to intake. Under you will see the results.

This is the way i have understood : With the rad as exhaust you are pulling the hot air inside the case over all the components (SB,NB,Memory etc) This air will normally be around 27-30C (Depending on the ambient)

When you have the rad as intake the cold air from outside will be heated up by the rad, but only by a little (usually around 3-5c) Given that the ambient temp is around 20-23c, the air that now has passed the rad will be 23-28c

The air passing over the components will be lower with top intake.

Also i prefer to have most of my fans as intake, this will force air out through all of the openings and therefor prevent dust from entering the case.

Edited by Eggy88 - 4/8/11 at 2:52pm
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Also i prefer to have most of my fans as intake, this will force air out through all of the openings and therefor prevent dust from entering the case.
I'll have to try that, my PC gets pretty dusty as it is right now. The front-side of the rad basically gets 1/2 covered in a solid layer of dust in 6~ months.
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