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Don't get Western Digital 2.5" HDDs. Their IntelliPark "feature" will park the drive's head after 8 seconds of inactivity. The HDD will take 1 second to come off this state, so it may fell laggy. This, and parking the HDD's head too much will make it less reliable as time passes by. This is a problem with all of Western Digital's Scorpio drives (including the Black). Don't buy them.

Saying a manufacturer is bad because you had a single drive fail is a pretty ignorant thing to do, IMO. Therefore, I recommend you use a Seagate Momentus 5400.6 or 7200.4 OR a Samsung Spinpoint MP4.
    
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I'd get a Toshiba or Samsung over a seagate at the moment, i'll do some research on the WD

From what i'd been seeing all the laptop drives have some kind of power saving feature and the blues are doing good in the reviews, especially being 5-10 cheaper than the other drives in their class
post #33 of 65
Every laptop hard drive I come across that dies is a seagate. I have a western digital 2.5external that has fallen off my desk / bed more times than I can count and runs like the day I bought it.
    
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Originally Posted by LOL_Wut_Axel;12923529 
Don't get Western Digital 2.5" HDDs. Their IntelliPark "feature" will park the drive's head after 8 seconds of inactivity. The HDD will take 1 second to come off this state, so it may fell laggy. This, and parking the HDD's head too much will make it less reliable as time passes by. This is a problem with all of Western Digital's Scorpio drives (including the Black). Don't buy them.

Saying a manufacturer is bad because you had a single drive fail is a pretty ignorant thing to do, IMO. Therefore, I recommend you use a Seagate Momentus 5400.6 or 7200.4 OR a Samsung Spinpoint MP4.

Even the 7200.4 has power management features
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Green features:
Leverages Seagate laptop power management technology, delivering the lowest-power 7200-RPM laptop hard drive yet
Utilizes ramp load features which remove the head from the disk during idle periods, improving idle power consumption and adding to the durability of the drive


Read more: http://www.justechn.com/2009/06/19/review-seagate-momentus-7200-3-2-5-hard-drive#ixzz1I2c5kK5o
post #35 of 65
The head parking isn't just for power management on laptop drives. It's also to hlp prevent heads crashing onto the platters, something that is much more likely to happen on a laptop than it is on a desktop since people are prone to move around with their laptop running. WDC's Intelli Park (or whatever they call it) has saved a lot more drives than it has harmed.

One of the other reasons I dislike Seagate drives so much is that unlike a WD, Samsung, or Hitachi drive which will normally trip your Bios SMART sensor and warn you of an impending failure Seagates and Toshiba's (along with newer Toshiba built Fujitsu's) are much more likely to just outright die or not start up one day without any warning.
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Originally Posted by CravinR1;12923692 
Even the 7200.4 has power management features

Yes, but it doesn't ignore the time on which you put the HDD to sleep. The Scorpios will ignore the time you set on Power Options in Windows and set it to 8 seconds no matter what. The 7200.4 can be set to sleep or to not sleep at all.

By "sleep" I mean to park HDD head, BTW.
    
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf;12923978 
The head parking isn't just for power management on laptop drives. It's also to hlp prevent heads crashing onto the platters, something that is much more likely to happen on a laptop than it is on a desktop since people are prone to move around with their laptop running. WDC's Intelli Park (or whatever they call it) has saved a lot more drives than it has harmed.

One of the other reasons I dislike Seagate drives so much is that unlike a WD, Samsung, or Hitachi drive which will normally trip your Bios SMART sensor and warn you of an impending failure Seagates and Toshiba's (along with newer Toshiba built Fujitsu's) are much more likely to just outright die or not start up one day without any warning.

As I said, the problem is that WD is too aggressive about it. It'll ignore the time you set on the OS. If you put the Seagate or Samsung to, say, after 1 min. of inactivity, it'll still be protected if it falls and you won't notice it being as laggy when it becomes active. I've used the Scorpio Black 320GB and you really do notice the lag. The HDD is parking its head all the time.
    
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You can download the wdidle3_1_05.zip file that allows you to change that directly from WDC. http://community.wdc.com/t5/Desktop/Green-Caviar-High-Load-Cycle-Cout-after-short-operation-time/td-p/15731/page/2
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post #39 of 65
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people say "parking the heads" will wear the drives out faster, my understanding is it disengages the heads from the drive ? I don't see how that will make any decrease in drive life

Also from all reviews and tests I'm seeing the Scorpio Blues are getting good marks and no complaints of the heads parking
post #40 of 65
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Is this for real?

Wonder if these drives are covered by WD warranty

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