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Seagate was great in the beginning, then they hit a rough patch in the early to mid 90's when they were owned by some consortium that included Packard Bell and their quality dropped quite a bit. They regained independent ownership and their quality rebounded up through the 7200.10 series, then they fell apart with the 7200.11 series and haven't recovered yet. Their Enterprise class drives are still as good as any, but their consumer level drives, especially their laptop drives are still second rate at best and more prone to failure. Most of the WDC failures you read about on places like Newegg are from the people trying to run consumer WD's in raid which isn't recommended due to the different error recovery procedure that a desktop edition hard drive uses than an enterprise drive designed for use in a raid array. They will sometimes work in raid, but when they function as intended and drop out of the raid array these people who don't know any better blame it on the drive instead of taking responsibility for using the wrong drive in the situation. This, along with the problems of transfering a raid array from one motherboard using an onboard controller to another is the reason I don't use or recommend raid on consumer motherboards using consumer level drives. Too may problems.
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From a laptop? Ive replaced every big oem drive maker, most popularly toshiba drives. I do have some seagates from 2003 i still use though on a daily basis that work great. everything has a failure rate.
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I've replaced them from all manufacturer's, but I get 10 dead Seagates for every Samsung, Hitachi, or WD laptop drive. Most of the Samsungs, Hitachis, and WD's only need to be wiped, formatted properly, and have the OS re-installed to get them back on track. Toshibas are somewhere in between, but they are just slower than snot for the most part which is why I don't recommend them. I used to like Fujitsu's before Toshiba bought them out and lowered the quality of them.
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i miss ibm drives. still have a 20gb from i think 98 happily spinnin
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Originally Posted by Greensystemsgo View Post
i miss ibm drives. still have a 20gb from i think 98 happily spinnin
The IBM drives were made by Hitachi, but with lower specs than what Hitachi recommended which is why so many of them died. They didn't call the DeskStars "DeathStars" for nothing. Once Hitachi took it over completely and built them to the proper specs the quality went way up. Not sure if they will continue to be marketed as Hitachi's now that Western Digital has bought them.

I still have a 20gig IBM TravelStar that works. Slower than snot, but it runs. It's IDE so I keep it around to test out old laptops as needed.
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Well mine showed up today. It's an older one from March or 2009, but it still has a year of warranty left on it. Passed SMART and the short WD Diagnostic test and is running the long test right now. It's quiet as a mouse and started up just fine. I'll post back as I do some additional testing, but for $20 I think it will work out just fine. Might order 1 or 2 more for that price if they don't sell out between now and then.
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
Well mine showed up today. It's an older one from March or 2009, but it still has a year of warranty left on it. Passed SMART and the short WD Diagnostic test and is running the long test right now. It's quiet as a mouse and started up just fine. I'll post back as I do some additional testing, but for $20 I think it will work out just fine. Might order 1 or 2 more for that price if they don't sell out between now and then.
Mine will be here monday, so I will be able to give another view.
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I have 14 Seagates in my TeraServer and they're all running flawless and have been for 4+ years now. I've recently begun moving data off it to an 8TB server I built to save space (smaller case, far less drives) and money (less drives and fans require less power).

The rundown is:
(2) 20Gb 2.5 SATA
(2) 1.5TB 3.5 SATA (unraided, but mirror to my desktop nightly)
(4) 250Gb 3.5 SATA (.9 drives... probably 5 years old or older even) (array holds mostly Torrented files unsorted before being migrated to the 1.5Tb drives into proper folders
(2) 500Gb 3.5 SATA and (2)500Gb 3.5 PATA (had problems with this array last week, but fixed errors on the one drive and it's running fine now) Holds already archived to Blueray Tv series / movies.
(2) 1Tb 2.5 SATA These two are currently in RAID0 and used to 0Day files. I won't explain what 0day files are... if you needed to know you would know.

I'll add that I've never had an issue with a Seagate drive that I had to ship it back cause of. I've sent 6 WD drives in for warrenty exchanges over the last 3 years and my SSD twice now.
    
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If they are 4 years old then they are 7200.10's or earlier when Seagate made good drives. It's the later 7200.11's that were the worst, but the 7200.12's aren't nearly as good as the 7200.10's.

If you were trying to raid the WD's it's no wonder they failed. WD's consumers drives do not work well in a raid array. That doesn't mean their is anything wrong with them, only that they aren't designed to be used as raid drives and fail when people who don't know any better try to force them into one.
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post #60 of 65
It's not that WD consumer drives aren't designed to work in a RAID array, it's that they're designed not to work in a RAID array. Subtle but important difference.
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