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I would wait for the new AMD bulldozer processors coming out in june early reports show these processors to be very powerful
post #12 of 25
I would tell your friend that simple numbers are useless.

1. Most cores won't be in use very often if at all.
2. Benchmarks show performance, so you need to find some benchmarks that are similar to what you will be doing mostly and see which one performs better. If your friend still won't listen, get a new friend.

I haven't used a 2500/2600K yet, but I have both a 980x and a 1090t, the 980X is faster at everything (better be for 5x the price), and overclocks great. (been at 4.5 GHZ since the day I bought it). I know in most benchmarks the 2600K is right there with the 980x, that being said, if money isn't an issue, I would go with Intel, if money is an issue, I would probably recommend AMD.
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post #13 of 25
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Originally Posted by humpmasterflex1 View Post
this kid keeps telling me that 3.2 Ghz x 6 cores = 19.2 Ghz, which is better than 3.4Ghz x4 = 13.6 Ghz

I mean, it does look better on paper, but im showing him benchmarks, and he keeps telling me benchmarks are useless so im turning to you guys
I'm sorry to say that your friend really doesn't know what hes talking about. Sandy Bridge is far superior clock for clock and those 4 cores are going to beat those 6 Thuban cores any day. You will not even use all 6 cores while gaming so it will be useless. Eventually games will use more than 4 cores but it will be a while down the road.

If you have the money get the 2500k for gaming, if you want to save a few bucks get the 1090t.
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Originally Posted by humpmasterflex1 View Post
this kid keeps telling me that 3.2 Ghz x 6 cores = 19.2 Ghz, which is better than 3.4Ghz x4 = 13.6 Ghz


Tell him that is NOT how it works!

If you want the best price/performance chip out at the moment get the 2500k. If you are willing to wait a few months then wait for bulldozer.

If you want to buy something right now and don't have enough for SB and want to save money then don't get the 1090t, get a Phenom II x4 955 instead and overclock it to 4GHz.

An x4 955 is enough to max out just about any game currently on single monitor setups at 1080p when coupled with a 6870.

If you still want a PhII x6 then get the 1055T instead of the 1090T. They are the same chip except the 1055T has a lower default clock. There is literally one setting in the BIOS that you can change to make it the same as a 1090T. Both chips have the same overclock ceiling.

EDIT: Just looked at your current system specs. Why do you want to upgrade? Your current rig is fine
Edited by amorph - 4/26/11 at 7:06am
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if your friend still won't listen, get a new friend.
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If you still want a PhII x6 then get the 1055T instead of the 1090T. They are the same chip except the 1055T has a lower default clock. There is literally one setting in the BIOS that you can change to make it the same as a 1090T. Both chips have the same overclock ceiling.
Motherboard dependent.
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Don't be jealous.
What makes you think him stating the obvious implies that he is jealous?
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Yeah going from a $190 CPU to a $300 one should be better.It all depends,for most people they will never notice the difference,and the AMD has socket compatibility in it's favour.You will be able to upgrade to Bulldozer,while with 1155-2 years from now it will be obsolete.
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call me bias, which I am, I agree that intel PROBABLY has higher performance, but price for price, AMD in general has a higher performance, however I'd recomend the 1090t over the 2500k, if you can strech to the 2600k then I'd recomend that one over a 1090t, but then again, I'd recomend the 1100t over the 2600k so, it's what you want to spend

Remember hyper threading of a quad core won't yield as much umph has having 50% more physical cores
    
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Motherboard dependent.
Which part of that is motherboard dependant other then the part where i said you can just change the clock in the BIOS? Because I'm pretty sure that ALL AM3 boards have that option in the BIOS (from ASUS and Gigabyte anyway) so that doesn't really make it motherboard dependent unless you had some OEM motherboard.

They are the same chip and have the same overclock ceiling no matter what board they are used on. (on average)

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call me bias, which I am, I agree that intel PROBABLY has higher performance, but price for price, AMD in general has a higher performance, however I'd recomend the 1090t over the 2500k, if you can strech to the 2600k then I'd recomend that one over a 1090t, but then again, I'd recomend the 1100t over the 2600k so, it's what you want to spend

Remember hyper threading of a quad core won't yield as much umph has having 50% more physical cores
Even when all cores are being used in the 1090t the 2500k is still faster in just about every application.

And when only a few of the cores are being used it's possible to turn hyper threading off with the 2500k and it will give it an extra boost.

More cores does not equal faster.

The 2500k is in the same price range as the 1090t and it is a faster chip. It's the best price/performance chip on the market currently.

Also the 2500k has a much higher overclock ceiling then the 1090t on a comparable motherboard. A 1090t on a ChIV Formula can reach 4-4.2GHz on air (average) while a 2500k on a good board can reach 4.5-5Ghz (average).

And why would you recommend an 1100t? An 1100t is the same as a 1090t only with 100Mhz added to the default clock and the price bumped up.

That being said both the 1090t and 2500k are good chips and will perform very well in any application. The 2500k is just the better value for money at the moment. (At least until BD comes out)
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Which part of that is motherboard dependant other then the part where i said you can just change the clock in the BIOS? Because I'm pretty sure that ALL AM3 boards have that option in the BIOS (from ASUS and Gigabyte anyway) so that doesn't really make it motherboard dependent unless you had some OEM motherboard.

They are the same chip and have the same overclock ceiling no matter what board they are used on. (on average)
Not having a go, just saying that a 1055T can only be overclocked by the fsb, and not all enthusiast boards (wouldn't even consider OEM in the equation) with full thuban support can overclock the same on fsb.

Therefore with a 1055T you're more limited to board quality/spec than you are on a 1090T, hence motherboard dependent.

1090T only needs an fsb of 200mhz (stock) and a multi of 21 to hit an easy 4.2Ghz

1055T needs 300Mhz, not all boards can do that, not even mentioning how it affects the memory.
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