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Hi, I need help organizing my mp3s. I originally had changed my covers by adding a jewel case overlay. Now, with my Droid Incredible, it overlays a jewel case itself, so the cover appears to be stuck inside two jewel cases.

The other issue is that my Artists section is way too big. So I corrected this before, which was a painstaking process.

About a week ago, I set off on a crusade to correct all this. I first changed all the artist info to just match the album artist in iTunes.

Then, I changed all the covers in iTunes, and rewrote all the data on my Droid. When I opened the music player on the Droid I was amazed to see that the covers were still the same as before.

To verify this, I opened my music collection in Windows Media Player. Sure enough, the covers were still the same.

So I changed all the covers in WMP, and formatted the Droid's SD card, and copied all the music over again.

The artist info had gone back to what it was before I started this endeavor. I am totally flustered.

So, a few question:
Do iTunes and WMP use different types of ID3 tags?
Is there a quick way to rewrite all Artist and Album Artist fields?

Thanks for any help you can provide.
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Delete all mp3, get FLAC.

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Delete all mp3, get FLAC.

correction:

Delete all mp3, download any audio format in 320KB CBR. Or WAV/FLAC
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I thought mp3 was just the container. Most of my stuff is 320kbps

Anyway, I traced this all down to the "Contributing Artist" Field which WMP loves so dearly. Trying to figure it out now.

Does anyone know if it corresponds to "Composer" in iTunes?

I won't be deleting my entire music collection anytime soon, just so that I can have bloated, uncompressed files, which digital snobs lust after with the passion of rapists.
Edited by jadawgis732 - 3/29/11 at 4:17pm
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Best way to deal with it is to use a program that actually changes the information on the files itself rather than just on the program. Winamp does a great job at tagging.

You could try MediaMonkey, but I feel that's a longer process. Maybe not for you.

MediaMonkey will quickly rewrite all the Artists and whatever else fields you select for mass files. Winamp deals with them one at a time.
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iTunes deals with album art internally. When you open up that properties window and select an image file to use as art, it is only used within iTunes. To actually write tag data, you have to copy and paste the image file into the album art area (bottom left corner of main window) when you have selected all songs of that album. It will not work for single songs. Pain in the @$$. I ended up wiping all tags and starting from scratch because other tag data was incorrect, too.

As Simca said, used MediaMonkey. Another free one is Mp3tag. You might want to use features of those programs that search for tag data on Amazon, freedb, etc. For older music, you might not be able to find the original album tags (only collection albums), but it works alright most of the time. I believe foobar2000 also has this feature (nice little player to consider).

On the ID3 tags, you can select what type of tags to write in iTunes. It might have been on a different setting than that of WMP. I believe WMP often falls back on any ID3v1 tags available instead of reading the ID3v2 tags that iTunes was most likely writing.
Edited by JoeWalsh - 3/30/11 at 8:41am
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Thanks a ton guys. Yeah since I only have like 60 artists but 40Gb of music among them, and the folder structure is

%MUSICFOLDER%/Artist/Album/.mp3

I was able to just overwrite all the artist data in 15 minutes using MP3Tag 2.47 Great program. Rep given, much appreciated. Sucks when competition actually makes it harder for a user to get stuff done, like in the case of WMP vs iTunes using different tags, thereby creating twice as much work for a user, potentially. Do you guys know which version of ID3 tag each of the programs use?
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Originally Posted by jadawgis732 View Post
Thanks a ton guys. Yeah since I only have like 60 artists but 40Gb of music among them, and the folder structure is

%MUSICFOLDER%/Artist/Album/.mp3

I was able to just overwrite all the artist data in 15 minutes using MP3Tag 2.47 Great program. Rep given, much appreciated. Sucks when competition actually makes it harder for a user to get stuff done, like in the case of WMP vs iTunes using different tags, thereby creating twice as much work for a user, potentially. Do you guys know which version of ID3 tag each of the programs use?
Left me know when you get to 225+ artists and 252+GB of music.
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Do you guys know which version of ID3 tag each of the programs use?
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You can select what type of tags to write in iTunes...I believe WMP often falls back on any ID3v1 tags available instead of reading the ID3v2 tags that iTunes was most likely writing.
iTunes will read/write ID3v1.x and ID3v2.x (default ID3v2). ID3v2 is the current standard for tags.
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