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Why make PCI-E 3.0 if we are not even using the full bandwith of PCI-E 2.0 yet? just another way for Intel to make money.....
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Why make PCI-E 3.0 if we are not even using the full bandwith of PCI-E 2.0 yet? just another way for Intel to make money.....
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post #43 of 81
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Originally Posted by PanicProne View Post
Wait... what?

Wasn't Ivy Bridge supposed to work with P67/H67 with a simple BIOS update?

I know it isn't very clear, but all this means is that maybe if you want PCI-E with Ivy Bridge you need a 7 series chipset, otherwise, you can still use P67/H67 but only get PCI-E 2.1?

I hope that's the case... I can't believe Intel is pulling the same old stunt.
Probably pin compatible with PCIe 2.1 and the PCIe slots go to the CPU on 1155/1156, not the chipset.
    
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post #44 of 81
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Probably pin compatible with PCIe 2.1 and the PCIe slots go to the CPU on 1155/1156, not the chipset.
So, Ivy Bridge would still be compatible with current chipsets, but you only get PCI-E 3.0 with a new chipset, otherwise you're stuck with 2.1?

I can live with that. I just want an upgrade path for my 2600k.
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According to wikipedia, Cougar Point chipsets (P67/H67 and possibly Z68) will be compatible with Ivy Bridge.


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Ivy Bridge

Ivy Bridge is the codename given to the 22 nm die shrink of the Sandy Bridge architecture. During the Intel Developer Forum (IDF) on September 13, 2010, Intel's CEO Paul Otellini mentioned that Ivy Bridge processors may be introduced as early as in the second half of 2011.[53] According to early roadmap details, Intel is estimating that Ivy Bridge will offer a 20 percent CPU performance advantage over Sandy Bridge.[54]
On the graphics side, there will be support for DirectX 11 and OpenCL 1.1, and Intel is targeting a 30 percent graphics performance and 20 percent overall performance boost compared to Sandy Bridge.[54] It seems that Ivy Bridge might get 16 EUs.[55][56] A new Panther Point chipset, to be released with the Ivy Bridge platform, will offer native USB 3.0 support, while Cougar Point chipsets will be backwards compatible with the Ivy bridge platform.[57][58]

Edited by PanicProne - 3/30/11 at 3:24am
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post #46 of 81
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Why make PCI-E 3.0 if we are not even using the full bandwith of PCI-E 2.0 yet? just another way for Intel to make money.....
You need to lay down the hardware road-map before companies roll out components that can use them. SSDs can already saturate PCI-E 2.1 along with Thunderbolt using PCI-E lanes at the same time as your GPU, we're going to need more bandwidth. Intel may make more money, but we all benefit with faster devices.
post #47 of 81
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I hope PCI-E 1.0 support dies, but I doubt it.
Why would you hope for the death of a backwards compatibility feature that doesn't require any additional cost, or hardware, to support?
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So, Ivy Bridge would still be compatible with current chipsets, but you only get PCI-E 3.0 with a new chipset, otherwise you're stuck with 2.1?

I can live with that. I just want an upgrade path for my 2600k.
Actually, the PCIe lanes are on the CPU so I'd be willing to bet theres a chance at least the main 16x slot, etc would be PCIe 3.0 with a new CPU.

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Why would you hope for the death of a backwards compatibility feature that doesn't require any additional cost, or hardware, to support?
While I don't care for killing PCIe 1.0/1.1, it can hold back adoption to stuff that isn't as backwards compatible, an example here is 32bit vs 64bit.
    
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Guess what this means guys
No P67/Z68 support for Ivy Bridge. Just as I thought.
Dangit. I heard same socket and though, "Oh hey, I'll just upgrade my processor!" Turns out I have to buy a new MB...
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