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Hello,

Well i am getting into watercooling and i am posting to get some more infos regarding some subjects.

All i want to do is a single loop on the CPU. The reason i am not doing more is because of the budget. Actually i don't have a budget but 200-250$ max would be good. My case is the corsair graphite serie 600T so the options are limited. My intentions is to mount the radiator at the back of the case. I do not wish to mod the case.. but i think i will have to remove some metal plate between.

Why i want to go watercooling ? because its cool, because i want to learn, because i want to overclock my 2500K cpu on my ASUS P8P67 also i would like to make my computer a bit more silent even if i know that gonna be impossible without adding lots of water blocks...

So the main questions i have are :

1- How much i will have to spend for a budget tight but okay performance system ? It is better a complete kit such rasa or swifttech ?
2- How i know which tube can fit with which pump or radiators ? That probably the hardest thing for me right now. (About tube height, etc..)
3- What are the goods waterblock for the LGA1155 socket ?
4- Is there a guide somewhere that explain how the filling and cleaning work ? It is hard ?
5- The graphite 600T offer two water cooling holes.. i plan to pass one of the tube in the pci BUT is there a way to pass the tubes in the holes the 600T offering ?
6- Any others advices are welcome

Thanks a lots !
Edited by rushino - 3/30/11 at 5:25am
    
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1) "Swiftech H20-220-APEX ULTIMA CPU Liquid Cooling Kit w/ Apogee XT" is a complete kit which is about $240USD depending where you get it from. Has everything you need so you can't go wrong, and is much cheaper than getting the exact same parts separately.

2) Depending on what pump/radiators you get you can choose the size of the barbs/compressions and hence the size of your tubing. Bigger barbs/compressions = bigger tubing. Make sure you check for the ID (inner diameter) and OD (out diameter) especially for compression fittings.

3) i think people would go between the swiftech XT or the EK HF 3.0 supreme? personally own the XT from that above said kit.

4) google; plenty of guides. Don't fill up your water with dyes and crap, they will clog up the waterblock = headache for cleaning.

5) no idea lol sorry

6) take your time, make sure everything is correct, and have fun!
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1) "Swiftech H20-220-APEX ULTIMA CPU Liquid Cooling Kit w/ Apogee XT" is a complete kit which is about $240USD depending where you get it from. Has everything you need so you can't go wrong, and is much cheaper than getting the exact same parts separately.

2) Depending on what pump/radiators you get you can choose the size of the barbs/compressions and hence the size of your tubing. Bigger barbs/compressions = bigger tubing. Make sure you check for the ID (inner diameter) and OD (out diameter) especially for compression fittings.

3) i think people would go between the swiftech XT or the EK HF 3.0 supreme? personally own the XT from that above said kit.

4) google; plenty of guides. Don't fill up your water with dyes and crap, they will clog up the waterblock = headache for cleaning.

5) no idea lol sorry

6) take your time, make sure everything is correct, and have fun!
I found the kit at 210$ CND which is really interesting ! It is Compatible LGA1155 ?
Edited by rushino - 3/30/11 at 6:56am
    
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Compatible LGA1155 ?
All current kits do LGA 775/1156/1155/1366 Intel sockets out of the box.

EDGE is ~$240 or so...OTOH the XSPC Rasa kit is $100 cheaper.

For Intel users the main advantages of EDGE is that less room is needed, and bleeding air out is incredibly simple. Rasa OTOH is much cheaper, but takes more effort to get all the air out.

I have an EDGE in my SFF MountainMods box. My brother's U2UFO has a Rasa loop. They are both quite the deal.
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post #5 of 10
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I know the XSPC Rasa kit is $100 cheaper BUT there might be a chance for the swiftech to fit the top of the case since its a bit thinner and i have some clearance issues.

But thanks!

Note: Both Edge or Ultima is 200$ CND with free shipping to canada. I think RASA is 150-160$ but that may have shipping fees which is about 20$. Not a big difference i guess.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rushino View Post
I know the XSPC Rasa kit is $100 cheaper BUT there might be a chance for the swiftech to fit the top of the case since its a bit thinner and i have some clearance issues.

But thanks!

Note: Both Edge or Ultima is 200$ CND with free shipping to canada. I think RASA is 150-160$ but that may have shipping fees which is about 20$. Not a big difference i guess.
Thickness ends up a wash. The EDGE rad is about 1.5" thick due to the reservoir on the rad. Rasa's rad is 1". Both end up needing about 2" of clearance one you stick fans on them.
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post #7 of 10
Here is a good starter kit.

Its got a Triple radiator, fans, block res and pump. you can upgrade any part of it at any time. And its just as easy/hard as a kit you put together yourself.

Both kits as good. I really depends on your money and patience.

As for bleeding, Either kit will have its ups and downs.

One has a pump on the radiator, on has it in the res. I like the XSPC kit because it makes the pump and radiator separate. So you can upgrade the pump and not to need to replace the radiator later. Thats just me.
Edited by Jason4i7 - 3/30/11 at 7:18am
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This one is good as well.. and it seem its the RX version.
    
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Im actually going to be getting this kit for the wifeys computer. She doesnt need anything major and super special, but I still want her to build a watercooling kit. This kit takes a lot of the work out of the equation. The pump in the res is quite strong, the fans have been paired with the radiator, so they are going to work well, and cheap to replace. And its easy to upgrade over time.

You have a lot of decisions, but if you have any questions, just ask. Do you have any pics of the inside of your case?

Are you going to be able to fit a 360 radiator, or are you going to mount externally.

Im headed to work, so Ill check back later. Have fun. subb'd for the hell of it.
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Well, for a 360 radiator i will need to mount it externally. I did some research for internal mount and a 240 swiftech *might* fit based on users experiences. But not a RASA one.

I don't have a specific pic of my case but http://img2.generation-nt.com/corsai...0000626631.jpg. This is what i have.

Ive got all the pieces needed to build the computer i just need the water cooling kit now.

I still wonder if a triple rad would be needed since i am doing only a CPU loop and dont plan much of doing anything else, i might get a gpu block 6 month later but that costly.

So personnally this gonna play between the :

Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultima XT Universal CPU Liquid Cooling Kit (210$)
+ Might fit internally
- Price
and
Rasa 750 RS360 Complete CPU WaterCooling Kit (180$)
+ Triple radiator
+ Price
- Need to be mounted back, need to mod a bit the case cause my pci slot have some metal bend between and ive ordered a piece to pass the watercooling tubes.

With which kit would you go ? If i bet on ..
- CPU only loop.
- Silent
- Good performance
- Case compatibility
Edited by rushino - 3/30/11 at 9:49am
    
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