Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo
I defended Nvidia regarding the 570, and I still do. Sure, it's hobbled by weak power regulation, but it's a solid card as long as you understand that it has lower OC headroom compared to the 400 series, and it isn't as tolerant of overvoltage/fluctuation. I still haven't seen proof of a 570 burning up at stock volts, or anything less than 1.1v either unless the OCP has been disabled.
The 590, however, is a different matter. I was hoping the negative press from the 570's would be enough to make Nvidia beef up the power regulation on all future cards. Apparently, this isn't the case, and Nvidia has absolutely no excuse for it. They already knew their power regulation wasn't really sufficient for the 500 series, yet they went ahead and designed what could have possibly been another "fastest graphics card in the world" and crippled it too. For an absolute top of the line, flagship product, would it have killed them to add a couple more VRM's, or maybe invest in higher quality components? It's not like buyers are going to be worried about a $10 difference on a $600+ card.
It would be not a $10 increase in parts. It would be a project throw at the recycle bin and TIME
. And my friend NVIDIA has no time avaliable with all that pressure from AMD 6990, RMAs, VRMs and all this burning circus we're seeing.
Originally Posted by westevilspirit777
DAMN nvidia recall those deadly 590s..those r death traps nd still people r buying those..EPIC MEGA FAIL.....6990 is lying around without any troubles,OCs like beast
bios update will do nothing!! it will make it more handicapped...rather they would recall these **** cards and revise it throughly bring out a new stepping XX version like what intel did with their faulty SB chipsets and put some quality VRMs like 6990 nd revise all those power value faults,we don't care about the F***ing length of the card!!what will we do with a good looking card without good performance?! LICK IT??
This bios represents NVIDIA trying to minimize COLATERAL DAMAGE
. If they want to be respected (besides the fanboys cult) they should do it right and refund EVERY CARD or CHANGE it for the next one. As a MS. in computer science (nerd, geek, name it) and as an almost graduated lawyer I see this "issue" as a paradise for sue NVIDIA.
Originally Posted by Ghoxt
Personally I pray that the voltage in the cards was not being displayed correctly. That would be an easy out, though I doubt it.
For example if Benchers were thinking they were at 1.2 Volts and the setting applied an actual 1.6 Volts etc...effectively nuking the VRM's under load.
Also many people here are digitally inclined a little and misunderstand core electronics. WaterCooling your Card by a Water block that tradditionally only touch the GPU(s), and Memory chips does nothing for the Power Delivery system (VRM's). So the GPU by being cooled attempt to pull more power through the uncooled VRM's taking them beyond their limitations (uncooled).
So do we need VRM coolers now? /sarcasm...
You are far from right. Almost all modern fullcover blocks do cool the VRMs.
But temps are not the point here as you can see the major problem is that the power system is undersized and/or uses low quality parts.
Originally Posted by soilentblue
i seriously doubt the downgrade the clocks with the bios update. if they lower the clocks then full refunds will have to be given if requested as that's not what you paid for. i have my fingers wayy crossed that it's a volt display malfuntion. if nvidia pulls this gtx 590 black cloud around with a flashing then they will have pulled another rabbit out of their hat.
As I said this is COLATERAL DAMAGE CONTROL
. They want to minimize the blowed cards. Imagine the scenario of multiple blowed cards from the same user that keeps sending it to RMA, a full refund isn't all that bad. To keep form a good reputation they should really do this BIOS update, RMA the damaged ones and offer to ALL clients the option to get the "new fastest card in the world" the GTX595 when it's out.
With this new BIOS probably the OC potential and even the stock performance from reviews will take a major hit, while humping up the speed of fans and by that killing one of the very few spots (major one for me) where it supposedly was better than 5990 out of the box (no watercooling considered), the acoustics. But do you think NVIDIA
will do that (the part when people receive the option to upgrade or full refund), I don't think so. You know why? Because they're evil