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they really think a bios update will fix it ?
    
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Are drivers initiated from the bios? I don't believe they are. How is this going to fix the exploding VRMs dying at start up? Fact of the matter is, they need to do 2 things: don't use low quality VRMs or invest in better VRM cooling. For a 700 dollar card with flashy packaging, surely, they could have invested in better VRM cooling.
The bios is the controlling forefront on the video card. Other than interpreting code into gaming performance the drivers are like a rheostat to keep vitals in check. All conditions outside of the OS are controlled by the bios, and while in the OS the thresholds are maintained by the bios with some user controllable functions.

An easy way of masking up fragile hardware is to castrate the maximum functions of it. So we could see a few potential changes with the newest bios. I still levy on a more restricting OCP/OVP, baseline fan speed increase, a much, much lower maximum voltage ceiling, and quite possibly an optimization of the VID to reduce vgpu instabilities.

A few things that are possible that I wouldn't expect to see are a lower frequency, shader lock down, and zero to very low overclock adjustability.

What a lot of people fail to comprehend it's not always additional voltage that is responsible for additional stress on the vrm's. Even a frequency increase without additional voltage or higher ambient temperatures generate more power draw. With reports of the 590 dying in stock conditions they really need to address this with something that is going to keep these cards a live so they can focus on the next generation or a substitute to the 590.

In the end if nVidia is resulting to a bios change they know there is a problem. The end result is going to be a card that has more potential to live, but the total performance that we'll be able to extract from it is going to be quiet a bit less.
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they really think a bios update will fix it ?
I thought they said the reference bios is fine. It's the Asus cards that seem to have a modified bios or something.

Or are they still going for a bios update?
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even if it gets fixed, it wont fix its reputation.
just like the first M16. jammed up like crazy until the M16A2 was released.
lolz.

i hope it fixes the asplosions tho! such a beast card shouldnt asplode in a pointless death!
    
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Don't get me started about the "2win", both for bad and for good.

Firstly, why couldn't nVidia use the same three-fan design? It sickens me.

Secondly, eVGA keeps advertising how it's better than the GTX 580. So it's going to cost 600$.

Now you ask - how that's going to be competitive with GTX 590?

I'll tell you! By crippling it!
1. NVIDIA uses a reference cooler design that has been a proven quality design on many occasions. EVGA's cooler (although effective) gives the card a very industrial look and increases the length by a good amount.

2. The card is on sale for $439 from EVGA's site: Link

3. It is not competing with the GTX590, it is basically an alternative enthusiast card (kinda like with what ATI did with the HD4850X2 that was exclusive to Sapphire).
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even if it gets fixed, it wont fix its reputation.
just like the first M16. jammed up like crazy until the M16A2 was released.
lolz.

i hope it fixes the asplosions tho! such a beast card shouldnt asplode in a pointless death!
I feel a 590v2 is in the works...
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I feel a 590v2 is in the works...
At this time NVIDIA has no projects or interest in redesigning the card. I was told the upcoming BIOS update is confirmed to provide proper protection even with overvoltage and has already been tested on several occasions to keep the cards safe. In combination with newer 270 series drivers you will actually see a slight performance increase as well.
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At this time NVIDIA has no projects or interest in redesigning the card. I was told the upcoming BIOS update is confirmed to provide proper protection even with overvoltage and has already been tested on several occasions to keep the cards safe. In combination with newer 270 series drivers you will actually see a slight performance increase as well.
well thats some good proof.
but how much over voltage can it take?
    
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I'd like to see it confirmed, but someone in the GTX590 owners club is advising that he's hearing that the firmware adjustment might be downclocking to 550Mhz. I'd like to hear more of this before I Return my 590 to Newegg.
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I'd like to see it confirmed, but someone in the GTX590 owners club is advising that he's hearing that the firmware adjustment might be downclocking to 550Mhz. I'd like to hear more of this before I Return my 590 to Newegg.

Ouch, it's more serious if they are actually down clocking. I would have used that as a last resort, which means this is probably a last resort.
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