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so your only running in dual channel for your ram? Does that have an impact on your QPI speed?
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so your only running in dual channel for your ram? Does that have an impact on your QPI speed?
Omg I never thought of that. I feel like a dumbass. CPU-Z shows 2:10 FSBRAM and is reporting single channel. I've got sticks I can take outta my sig rig to fix that... I don't think that will fix it though because I had triple channel 1600 OCd to 1866 a month ago and had the same issue. Nevertheless it still needs to be addressed. Thanks.

P.S. I will give reps as soon as I'm off tapatalk.
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Your frame times are way off we just have to figure out why. I am curious as to why you are using so much voltage for your OC most 980X's do not need that kind of v for 4.2Ghz I have 4 970 / 980's and the will all run 4.2Ghz with less than 1.3v none of mine need 1.4v until I get around 4.4Ghz. Have you tried running at less voltage the X6 cpu's are very sensitive to voltage. And I have found that to much voltage for a given OC can slow them down when folding.

There are allot of different things that could be going on here. For 1 you should be running triple Chanel running duel is hurting you also what are the specks for your ram 1.6v is probably a little low.
Second I think you are running to much V on your OC but I do not know, I do not have your CPU and no 2 are the same. But as a general rule I would say it is to high for the OC.
What are your BCLK and multiplier set at and how much experience do you have at OCing. What are your temps when folding. As you can see we will need more info to figure it out and it may take a while.

This is just a guess but I would say your OC needs some tweaking to begin with and you need to put a 3rd stick of ram in.
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Ouch single channel.

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just trying to come up with ideas, this one seems tricky
Haha, my fault I didn't mean not to post ideas.

Was just informing that its been known around here for a while. I think more people knew about it when that guy posted a bunch of folding numbers, I assume you saw it too.
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Ouch single channel.



Haha, my fault I didn't mean not to post ideas.

Was just informing that its been known around here for a while. I think more people knew about it when that guy posted a bunch of folding numbers, I assume you saw it too.
Now chris it has not been that long it was less than a month ago that people here on OCN were telling me that I did not know what I was talking about when I told them that ram speed and timings made a diffrence. And not just 1 or 2 but allot of people.
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Now chris it has not been that long it was less than a month ago that people here on OCN were telling me that I did not know what I was talking about when I told them that ram speed and timings made a diffrence. And not just 1 or 2 but allot of people.
You gave me idea, to actually put that info into the guides when I get a chance.
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What's your load when you aren't folding? What other programs do you have running simultaneously while folding?
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couple of things to check here:
- check the task manager > processes and look for "fahcore_a5.exe" and see its CPU usage, is it running at approx 100%?
- is your HT enabled in BIOS?
- 1.4v seems a bit too high for only 4.2Ghz. try lower it to something close to 1.30v. fyi, i managed to run my 980x at 4.25Ghz with 1.296v, F@H 24/7 without error.
- what is your current tRFC and CR rate for your memory? perhaps, a screenshot of your memory spec from cpu-z will help us a bit.
Edited by amang - 3/31/11 at 7:01pm
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First off, sorry for the late reply guys. I was swamped from 8 to 8 today.

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Originally Posted by Grandpa_01 View Post
Your frame times are way off we just have to figure out why. I am curious as to why you are using so much voltage for your OC most 980X's do not need that kind of v for 4.2Ghz I have 4 970 / 980's and the will all run 4.2Ghz with less than 1.3v none of mine need 1.4v until I get around 4.4Ghz. Have you tried running at less voltage the X6 cpu's are very sensitive to voltage. And I have found that to much voltage for a given OC can slow them down when folding.

There are allot of different things that could be going on here. For 1 you should be running triple Chanel running duel is hurting you also what are the specks for your ram 1.6v is probably a little low.
Second I think you are running to much V on your OC but I do not know, I do not have your CPU and no 2 are the same. But as a general rule I would say it is to high for the OC.
What are your BCLK and multiplier set at and how much experience do you have at OCing. What are your temps when folding. As you can see we will need more info to figure it out and it may take a while.

This is just a guess but I would say your OC needs some tweaking to begin with and you need to put a 3rd stick of ram in.
Thanks for your input. Here are the answers to your questions:

1.) No, I have not tried running the voltage at a lower spec. (See Q1)

2.) I have swapped the 12GB of RAM from my Sig-Rig with my Folding Rig. I now have 12GB 1866 RAM. CPU-Z Confirms Triple Channel.

3.) It is very possible that I am running too much voltage on my OC. This is my first OC and I followed a guide that recommended 1.40V at 4.2GHz. Now that I am questioning the guides credence, I can't find my bookmark to it. Go figure... Anyways, back on topic.

4.) BCLK 133, Multiplier is 30 and, my temps while folding are as follows: CPU 31C-37C, NB 63C, SB 54C, CPUTIN 45C.


I agree my OC needs some tweaking, but I have a couple questions:

Q1.) Can I keep my BCLK and Multiplier at 133 and 30 (respectively) if I dial down my voltage in increments of .00625V until it is unstable, or should I start from scratch?

Q2.) You Also stated my RAM is low at 1.6V. To be precise, it is at 1.65625V. Is that still too low?


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What's your load when you aren't folding? What other programs do you have running simultaneously while folding?
Hey sstnt, thanks for getting back to me.

My load is 0% when I am not folding, according to TaskMan. I have a couple programs running in the background that I have stopped using MSCONFIG (i.e. Skype, AV, and other stuff I don't need on the system).

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couple of things to check here:
- check the task manager > processes and look for "fahcore_a5.exe" and see its CPU usage, is it running at approx 100%?
- is your HT enabled in BIOS?
- 1.4v seems a bit too high for only 4.2Ghz. try lower it to something close to 1.30v. fyi, i managed to run my 980x at 4.52Ghz with 1.296v, F@H 24/7 without error.
- what is your current tRFC and CR rate for your memory? perhaps, a screenshot of your memory spec from cpu-z will help us a bit.
Thanks for your tips amang. Here is some answers to your questions:

1.) CPU Usage for fahcore_a5.exe is at 99%

2.) I have confirmed that HT is enabled in BIOS.

3.) Please see Q1 that was directed to Grandpa_01. You both noticed the same thing and I could use both of your expertise.

3.) My current tRFC and CR rate is 74 and 2T, respectively. Below is a screenshot you requested, as well as some others that may be of help.




NOTE: I loaded my 4.0 OC profile that is 1.38V as soon as I got home.
You guys had me worried about my 1.4V OC.




And I don't have a clue what this tab means, but you guys might. hahaha


And once again, thanks you for all your help, everyone.
Edited by OverK1LL - 3/31/11 at 6:04pm
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ok you may need to play around your OC and see how it affects your PPD for 690x WUs.

- change the CR rate to 1T, but if F@H crashes because of this or your system becomes unstable, switch back to 2T.

- set your ram frequency to at least 1,600Mhz (or 800Mhz on CPU-Z>Memory>DRAM Frequency)

- try to alter your OC profile from 133x30 to say 160x25. high BCLK may improve your PPD, who knows. you may need to change your vcore down a bit, so play around with it until it's stable.


>> Q2.) You Also stated my RAM is low at 1.6V. To be precise, it is at 1.65625V. Is that still too low?

I have my Dom GT 12GB set to 1.600v precisely and it's running happily so far. Not sure if that applies to your situation, but you may give it a try.

check your PPD and see if the above steps improve it.
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