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Originally Posted by badatgames18 View Post
I have a wireless pci adapter, and it works perfectly fine in windows, but in linux, specifically Ubuntu... it doesn't even get recognized. I have to go through the motion of manually installing the drivers (using the function that enables it to use the windows driver) only to have it still not work all the time.

Is this hardware recognition and compatibility a issue for all linux distros? (Wireless adapters i mean)

Can anyone recommend me a pci wireless adapter that would work out of the box with linux ubuntu?
To make a long story short, blame the hardware manufacturers and not the OS. If the people who make the cards would either release their own linux drivers or release documentation so FOSS devs could do the work for them, we wouldn't have this issue.
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trolling is subjective...
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oh my goodness? You mean there is something that Linux isn't superior at?? whoa! The earth will stop rotating on its axis soon! You mean linux isn't a 100% better solution over windows? You mean to tell me it's not perfect?
By all means, tell me what is subjective about that post.

The core OS, in all reality, is better designed than Windows. However, due to lack of commercial support along the same caliber that Windows has, the third party support for linux leaves much to be desired.
post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt View Post
As for this being a "problem" with Linux, I completely disagree. Linux always recognize and interface with hardware pretty easily, usually easier than Windows.
I can plug a USB to Serial adapter into a Linux computer and it will work without having to do anything. I have yet to get one to work on Vista or 7 ever.
I have the same experience. My parallel card doesn't have vista drivers, but it's automatically detected and installed in Linux. 64-bit, if I might add.
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by badatgames18 View Post
I have a wireless pci adapter, and it works perfectly fine in windows, but in linux, specifically Ubuntu... it doesn't even get recognized. I have to go through the motion of manually installing the drivers (using the function that enables it to use the windows driver) only to have it still not work all the time.
Using ndiswrapper is a last resort for certain network hardware where the manufacturer has decided that they don't care about Linux users and don't want to make either drivers or specifications available so that the cards can be made to work with Linux. It is also not a perfect solution, since it attempts to use a driver written for a completely different OS (Windows) and this approach is naturally unstable.

Now if you would tell us what sort of card it is, perhaps we could help further in getting it to work. In particular, post the output from the "lspci -nn" command (that's two n characters).

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Is this hardware recognition and compatibility a issue for all linux distros? (Wireless adapters i mean)
No, it is only an issue with a minority of hardware where the manufacturer has gone out of their way to make sure the device doesn't work with Linux. See above.

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Can anyone recommend me a pci wireless adapter that would work out of the box with linux ubuntu?
The Free Software Foundation has a nice hardware compatibility list.

Some cards I see on Newegg right now that are known to work are:

D-Link DWA-552 and DWA-556 (these work but may be flaky with older drivers)
Linksys WMP600N (works 100%)
ASUS PCE-N13 (works 100% but requires recent kernel within the last year or so)

Other cards may work but I was unable to verify it from a quick search.

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oh my goodness? You mean there is something that Linux isn't superior at?? whoa! The earth will stop rotating on its axis soon! You mean linux isn't a 100% better solution over windows? You mean to tell me it's not perfect?

Edited by error10 - 3/30/11 at 8:52pm
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post #14 of 21
Greetz
It is worth your time to learn to research your hardware so you continue to learn to not just accept what builders/oems give you and take control of one of the most important devices you (should) own - your personal computer.

If after that effort you still have difficulty you may notice that your wired nic works really well and choose to discover how much better it works in Linux than in Windows. The device recommended by Rookie1337 and many others like it, some of which are half the cost but do a little less, require no drivers and are configured via your favorite web browser. They are a great solution with multiple applications and almost effortless to use, as easy as a router since that's basically what they are, just expanded. Some will fit in your pocket and are great for Lan parties.

Congrats for having the cojones to take on a learning curve. It is easy to see the Luser Attitude (requiring LART ) that comes from being too lazy or st00pid by checking out the guy who not only responded but then re-responded to justify his epic Luser-ness. He would have to move up some to qualify for troll.
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im always so confused when i hear about a NIC that doesnt work in linux due to lack of manufacturer support... why would you not support a NETWORKING OS... linux is used on high end servers and stuff like that... and networking companies still dont realize they should release drivers for linux? facepalm worthy
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You find the adapter chipset by typing "lsusb" or "lspci" in console.
You sir, are dope. And correct!
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im always so confused when i hear about a NIC that doesnt work in linux due to lack of manufacturer support... why would you not support a NETWORKING OS... linux is used on high end servers and stuff like that... and networking companies still dont realize they should release drivers for linux? facepalm worthy
There are virtually no such wired cards.

This is about a wireless card, and there are still a few.
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There are virtually no such wired cards.

This is about a wireless card, and there are still a few.
a nic is a nic... why would you make a nic without driver support for a major network operating system...

glad it isnt nearly as much of a problem as it used to be though
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a nic is a nic... why would you make a nic without driver support for a major network operating system...

glad it isnt nearly as much of a problem as it used to be though
You'll have to ask the offending manufacturer, if we ever find out who it is.
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im always so confused when i hear about a NIC that doesnt work in linux due to lack of manufacturer support... why would you not support a NETWORKING OS... linux is used on high end servers and stuff like that... and networking companies still dont realize they should release drivers for linux? facepalm worthy
I think it more has to do with them making the drivers only for themselves and when they need it. Maybe they're afraid of people looking at their code?
     
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