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OK guys before the flaming starts over my name, i am seriously considering coming over to the intel side, because right now amd just does not have the punch i want. Now depending on what bulldozer does i may or may not convert.

For a discussion sake lets say bulldozer is crap, what are the big advantages of actually coming to intel, i know the price of the new i5 and i7 sandybridges are very good considering the performance. This upgrade/ overhaul will take place at the end of the year, i have $5000 dedicated to this new build, so what can i get that is intel based for that kind of money?

And what will be the performance difference between a $5000 intel vs amd build. For this build money really would not be an object, since my overall income has increased since my last build

And now a few questions:

1. will i need super fast 2000mhz ram if i want a intel build?
2. what are the differences between overclocking a amd and intel chip.
3. what are the maximum temps to expect form a intel chip.
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1. will i need super fast 2000mhz ram if i want a intel build?
2. what are the differences between overclocking a amd and intel chip.
3. what are the maximum temps to expect form a intel chip.
1. Nope! You can continue running 1600MHz or whatever you have without any hit in performance.
2. The difference? For Sandy Bridge setups, all you need to do for some quick and dirty overclocking is raise the multiplier and the vcore. You don't touch anything else. Any other voltages are mainly for fine tuning.
3. You should never exceed 80C on a Sandy Bridge chip.

You can get a 2600K and a very high end motherboard with a $5000 budget.

Good luck with your build!
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OK guys before the flaming starts over my name, i am seriously considering coming over to the intel side, because right now amd just does not have the punch i want. Now depending on what bulldozer does i may or may not convert.

For a discussion sake lets say bulldozer is crap, what are the big advantages of actually coming to intel, i know the price of the new i5 and i7 sandybridges are very good considering the performance. This upgrade/ overhaul will take place at the end of the year, i have $5000 dedicated to this new build, so what can i get that is intel based for that kind of money?

And what will be the performance difference between a $5000 intel vs amd build. For this build money really would not be an object, since my overall income has increased since my last build

And now a few questions:

1. will i need super fast 2000mhz ram if i want a intel build?
2. what are the differences between overclocking a amd and intel chip.
3. what are the maximum temps to expect form a intel chip.
Same here man... But I'm waiting until asus releases another gene edition mobo. :3
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Will my current 212+ cooler be enough to cool a intel adequately? or will i need to go higher end like a NH D-14?
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Will my current 212+ cooler be enough to cool a intel adequately? or will i need to go higher end like a NH D-14?
You'll be able to hit 4.6GHz with that cooler, with temps around 70C at load, which will fluctuate depending on your ambient temperatures.
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nah, you can't. You would have to change your name.
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You'll be able to hit 4.6GHz with that cooler, with temps around 70C at load, which will fluctuate depending on your ambient temperatures.
What about my h70?

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Not really high jacking because I would like to be convinced as well..
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i would just wait until the end of the year and get an x79 mobo
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What about my h70?
Near 4.8GHz 24/7, I'd say. My buddy gets load temps of around 95C with a 5.0GHz overclock on a H50. Your H70 will shave around 5-10C off that.
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Will my current 212+ cooler be enough to cool a intel adequately? or will i need to go higher end like a NH D-14?
I came from a Phenom II myself and man I can tell you it was a big difference. Not just in synthetic benchmarks but also in games. Now on the Windows desktop environment the differences were subtle but there. IDK how Bulldozer will contend with Sandy Bridge, but let me tell you if Bulldozer does beat SB it will be by an extremely small margin. In fact, I believe it will be a neck to neck race b/t SB and Bulldozer.

To answer your question, your 212+ will cool an SB processor more than adequately. In fact, you can probably get an easy 4.8GHz overclock with that cooler on a i7 2600K.

And, you don't need a $5K budget My computer (sig rig) cost $1000 to build
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