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So one of my cards doesn't overclock as well as the other so I've been experimenting on some stable clocks. It passes OCCT with no errors in like 20 or so minutes, but when I try 3DMark11 or vantage it crashes within the first 15 seconds. It also crashes in Crysis 2 10-20 mins.
What can be the cause of the crashes? Sometimes it goes gray screen and other times it would idle up my monitor.
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as you have said it its unstable..and your cards may be the same but they don't crank up the same too..maybe the other is just a golden chip while the 2nd card is just not a good binned chip..try adding some voltages but DO NOT go over 1.05v on the 570 or you will end up smoking it..
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Been running 1.15 on it for a week, I'm not worried about it smoking on me. I'm just curious as to why it shuts down even though its stable, my other card doesn't turn off my monitor even when its unstable it just shows error: 1. This card won't even tell me error: 1 it will just shut off right away.
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This is why I have stopped to use Furmark and OCCT GPU tests as they are useless..

When I had ATI HD4850 I was 30 min stable in Furmark @ 770MHz core but it would crash in games like Crysis,Dirt 2 etc..

So I needed to back down my OC to 750MHz to be game stable..

And even OCCT GPU was giving me "errors" it was ROCK SOLID in games/3DMark etc without artifacts or crashes..

And I have used it @ 750MHz for almost 2 years without a single issue..

That's why for stability testing I use Crysis/Warhead bench loop (30min),Heaven benchmark and 3DMark 11 loop 30min (Demo)..

If my card passes those tests then I'm sure that it won't crash on me..

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Originally Posted by LivingChampion;12941637 
Been running 1.15 on it for a week, I'm not worried about it smoking on me. I'm just curious as to why it shuts down even though its stable, my other card doesn't turn off my monitor even when its unstable it just shows error: 1. This card won't even tell me error: 1 it will just shut off right away.

it may be due to OCP and OVP kicking in..it happens to me alot(since i am just on stock cooler)..when i reach 95c it restarts back to stock settings..
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Originally Posted by kairi_zeroblade;12941820 
it may be due to OCP and OVP kicking in..it happens to me alot(since i am just on stock cooler)..when i reach 95c it restarts back to stock settings..

Yeah never thought of OCP being it, but it only runs 68c max and I'm not willing to disable that biggrin.gif
Probably just going back to my lower stable clock then.
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The GF110 Fermis will not run at your overclocked settings in either OCCT or Furmark (so far these are the only applications that OCP targets). It can, and will, throttle to lower than stock clocks, that is why you are seeing such low temperatures. Without disabling OCP or otherwise there is no way to make these tests legitimate stress tests.
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Originally Posted by TickleMeElmo;12942554 
The GF110 Fermis will not run at your overclocked settings in either OCCT or Furmark (so far these are the only applications that OCP targets). It can, and will, throttle to lower than stock clocks, that is why you are seeing such low temperatures. Without disabling OCP or otherwise there is no way to make these tests legitimate stress tests.

i agree..i always use games or 3d benches to test card stability..
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Originally Posted by kairi_zeroblade;12942584 
i agree..i always use games or 3d benches to test card stability..

That wasn't really my point rolleyes.gif.

My point is that you can't use the conventional "stress" tests that have worked before to test the new generation of cards because the manufacturers are disabling it at a hardware level. Yes, you can turn off the protections, but then you are running your hardware OUTSIDE of design specifications. In the past ATI and Nvidia may have decried the use of OCCT and Furmark but by virtue of having nothing to prevent users from using the programs they would have made design considerations to make sure the hardware could handle those loads. Now you see the GTX570 not having enough VRMs largely because (in my reckoning) Nvidia decided that they were not supporting the programs and therefore did not include it in the scope of their engineering.
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That wasn't really my point rolleyes.gif.

My point is that you can't use the conventional "stress" tests that have worked before to test the new generation of cards because the manufacturers are disabling it at a hardware level. Yes, you can turn off the protections, but then you are running your hardware OUTSIDE of design specifications. In the past ATI and Nvidia may have decried the use of OCCT and Furmark but by virtue of having nothing to prevent users from using the programs they would have made design considerations to make sure the hardware could handle those loads. Now you see the GTX570 not having enough VRMs largely because (in my reckoning) Nvidia decided that they were not supporting the programs and therefore did not include it in the scope of their engineering.

bold:well that is true OCCT only uses DX9 furmark now supports DX10..but what also i am trying to say is since YES we do have the latest cards why not FRY them using the LATEST GAMES..THAT for sure will make use of the Card architecture since it was designed to PLAY those..and YES those OCP and OVP were used to CONTROL the card SW level to prevent it from SMOKING..it could have been foreseen that this was coming and it was the only solution to CAP it off..
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