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Apparently my CPU is only rated for 75w TDP when in programs like HWmonitor it says it's pulling ~106w at stock :<
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Originally Posted by IzninjaFTW View Post
Ok so lock ram at 1066. Adjust FSB and NB and CPU voltage until stable. Got it

I just lokoed at my CPU box and no where does it say what the VID is
Darn, I haven't used a recent AMD, so I'm not familiar with how to locate it these days.

I know it's a lot to ask, but if you haven't read this yet: http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/53...ore-cache.html and this: http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...they-mean.html
you really should. I did the same thing when I first wanted to OC--just change the FSB and CPU voltage, and expect it to work. But unfortunately it doesn't work that way. I didn't really understand how it all should work until I read the guide on here (and in other places/sites too). There are so many settings, and so many things to tweak, that you really need to know what does what, and how to do it systematically. The guides we have around here are excellent for that. It just requires the patience to go through it entirely before you start in on a real OC. I highly suggest it.
    
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Darn, I haven't used a recent AMD, so I'm not familiar with how to locate it these days.

I know it's a lot to ask, but if you haven't read this yet: http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/53...ore-cache.html
you really should. I did the same thing when I first wanted to OC--just change the FSB and CPU voltage, and expect it to work. But unfortunately it doesn't work that way. I didn't really understand how it all should work until I read the guide on here (and in other places/sites too). There are so many settings, and so many things to tweak, that you really need to know what does what, and how to do it systematically. The guides we have around here are excellent for that. It just requires the patience to go through it entirely before you start in on a real OC. I highly suggest it.
Thanks. I'll check it out
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Reduce it to a dual core? :< Won't that hurt my performance?
Well, technically yes, in multi threaded apps, but at least if you try it, you know that is your problem, and it is not some thing else like your ram, MB, etc.

No way that thing should need 1.45V to be stable at stock speeds....

These X3 chips are X4 chips that had a bad core and got binned as such. The extra voltage you have to apply may be because the 3rd core is not 100%, requirng more volts to stay stable.

It would be worth a shot.. just try one at a time and see what happens...

And back to your original question, demepnding on what you are using the CPU for, 2 cores ~4GHz may perform better than 3 hot cores ~3Ghz
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Thanks. I'll check it out
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And this too...lol http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...rclocking.html

Good luck, if you have any questions, just post them, or post them in the other AMD OC thread(s) and I'm sure people will get you to a blistering fast OC!

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Well, technically yes, in multi threaded apps, but at least if you try it, you know that is your problem, and it is not some thing else like your ram, MB, etc.

No way that thing should nee 1.45V to be stable at stock speeds....

These X3 chips are X4 chips that had a bad core and got binned as such. The extra voltage you have to apply may be becaue the 3rd core is not 100%, requirng more volts to stay stable.

It would be worht a shot.. just try one at a time and see what happens...

And back to your original question, demepnding on what you are using the CPU for, 2 cores ~4GHz may perform better than 3 hot cores ~3.2Ghz
There's little point though--the "binning" process for deciding on a CPU isn't that poor. An X3 should be fine as an X3 without problems (though an overclock success may vary).
    
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Apparently my CPU is only rated for 75w TDP when in programs like HWmonitor it says it's pulling ~106w at stock :<
..another reason to try to weed out a possible bad core...
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Well, technically yes, in multi threaded apps, but at least if you try it, you know that is your problem, and it is not some thing else like your ram, MB, etc.

No way that thing should nee 1.45V to be stable at stock speeds....

These X3 chips are X4 chips that had a bad core and got binned as such. The extra voltage you have to apply may be becaue the 3rd core is not 100%, requirng more volts to stay stable.

It would be worht a shot.. just try one at a time and see what happens...

And back to your original question, demepnding on what you are using the CPU for, 2 cores ~4GHz may perform better than 3 hot cores ~3.2Ghz
I heard that these chips can't get past 3.6ghz without extreme voltage.
I'll try all of these things in a second. We are having a really bad storm here so I have to wait
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I heard that these chips can't get past 3.6ghz without extreme voltage.
I'll try all of these things in a second. We are having a really bad storm here so I have to wait
Yea I just threw 4Ghz out there as an example... I'm telling ya man, its worth a shot! If anything else you may be able to rule out all your other components and keep from pulling out your hair!
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Yea I just threw 4Ghz out there as an example... I'm telling ya man, its worth a shot! If anything else you may be able to rule out all your other components and keep from pulling out your hair!
Thanks for the help
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Apparently my CPU is only rated for 75w TDP when in programs like HWmonitor it says it's pulling ~106w at stock :<
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..another reason to try to weed out a possible bad core...
TDP is NOT the power that the CPU is consuming. It's the total amount of heat that the CPU will dissipate when it runs at full stock load. It's different from what the CPU will draw in terms of electricity. TDP = thermal dissipation power. The CPU must DRAW more than that, since nothing is 100% efficient. It's quite likely, and very realistic that it's drawing that much, so it's not surprising. Plus, hardware monitors are seldom accurate with things like that.
    
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